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> My new 2.0 won't start, Need help!!
kkid
post Dec 13 2013, 04:30 PM
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Hi guys,

I spent last few weeks to prep on my newly acquired 2.0 and it's finally in the car! But she doesn't wanna wake up.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I know our Bay has been cold lately...but today is beautiful!!!

It turns over, has fuel pressure around 30psi when cranking(20psi soon after when the key turned off), static timing done after points gap adjusted, all the electrical connections checked I think, and what else???

Actually there're at least 2 concerns I can think of. When I got the motor, the dizzy rotor was pointing somewhere around#4 position when the TDC mark was showing in the round window. So I moved the gear in order for rotor to point #1 as I confirmed the valves were loose. But wondering if I did it correctly. I took the gas tank out as I installed stainless fuel lines. The tank was sitting in my garage for about a week or so then it developed some rust. So I cleaned inside with rust remover. But I might not have rinsed it well enough. New fuel filter still looks clean after uncountable numbers of attempt of starting the motor. New fuel sock is in the tank.

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So I am stuck now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

What do you all think I screwed?

Thanks in advance,

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Old Yella
post Dec 15 2013, 11:25 PM
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Hi
I always examine for the simple solution,

1. Check that TDC lines up with no 1 cylinder.

2. get someone to crank the motor and first check spark is coming from the coil by holding the coil wire a few mm off the block. If there is spark check the no 1 lead.
3. If there is spark at the number one lead pour a small amount of fuel down the intake manifold , if it fires and runs for a second or two. if no spark.

WARNING---do not pour fuel down the manifold whilst turning the motor over. If it is not properly tuned and it back fires it will ignite the fuel in the container you are holding. No need to explain, that's is bad news.

4. If no spark check the points gap.

5. Spark but no fire , check fuel supply.

I just pulled my own tank and the screen and filter were clogged. I undertook the Por 15 fuel tank restoration process and bought a new screen and filter plus changed all the lines and fuel hose.

Just my 2c worth on top of the other good advice.

Oh, forgot. If you pull the plug from number 1 and think you are at TDC all you need to do is put something soft like a plastic straw into the plug hole if the piston is at the TDC the straw will only go into the cylinder about 2 inches if not the straw will go in about 6 inches, just saves a lot of valve checking etc. Must not use anything hard like a screw driver.
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post Dec 16 2013, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Old Yella @ Dec 15 2013, 09:25 PM) *

Hi
I always examine for the simple solution,

1. Check that TDC lines up with no 1 cylinder.

2. get someone to crank the motor and first check spark is coming from the coil by holding the coil wire a few mm off the block. If there is spark check the no 1 lead.
3. If there is spark at the number one lead pour a small amount of fuel down the intake manifold , if it fires and runs for a second or two. if no spark.

WARNING---do not pour fuel down the manifold whilst turning the motor over. If it is not properly tuned and it back fires it will ignite the fuel in the container you are holding. No need to explain, that's is bad news.

4. If no spark check the points gap.

5. Spark but no fire , check fuel supply.

I just pulled my own tank and the screen and filter were clogged. I undertook the Por 15 fuel tank restoration process and bought a new screen and filter plus changed all the lines and fuel hose.

Just my 2c worth on top of the other good advice.

Oh, forgot. If you pull the plug from number 1 and think you are at TDC all you need to do is put something soft like a plastic straw into the plug hole if the piston is at the TDC the straw will only go into the cylinder about 2 inches if not the straw will go in about 6 inches, just saves a lot of valve checking etc. Must not use anything hard like a screw driver.


Thanks for dropping by and leaving the check list.

1. Check that TDC lines up with no 1 cylinder.
Done and looks good.
2. get someone to crank the motor and first check spark is coming from the coil by holding the coil wire a few mm off the block. If there is spark check the no 1 lead.
Done and good.

3. If there is spark at the number one lead pour a small amount of fuel down the intake manifold , if it fires and runs for a second or two. if no spark.
Done but motor did not start this way.

4. If no spark check the points gap.
Done and looks good.

5. Spark but no fire , check fuel supply.
Will pull the tank and have it cleaned at my local radiator shop, then change the sock, filter and rubber lines. (+install other clean set of injectors)

*If the fuel pump is contaminated and possibly gummed, what would be the best way to clean at home?

*Should we take the oil in the case to be already contaminated by fuel after a number of attempts to start the engine?


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kkid   My new 2.0 won't start   Dec 13 2013, 04:30 PM
krazykonrad   Are you starting the engine with it in the car o o...   Dec 13 2013, 04:37 PM
kkid   Are you starting the engine with it in the car o ...   Dec 13 2013, 04:45 PM
Rand   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at ...   Dec 13 2013, 04:38 PM
kkid   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at...   Dec 13 2013, 04:47 PM
Rand   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark a...   Dec 13 2013, 06:46 PM
kkid   One easy trick is to just pull a plug wire, plug i...   Dec 15 2013, 04:16 PM
kkid   sorry, I gotta p/u my daughter from school.   Dec 13 2013, 04:48 PM
Kirmizi   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at...   Dec 13 2013, 05:11 PM
gunny   If you have a dwell meter hook it up and measure t...   Dec 13 2013, 05:19 PM
kkid   If you have a dwell meter hook it up and measure ...   Dec 14 2013, 12:01 AM
type47   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive ...   Dec 13 2013, 05:22 PM
kkid   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive...   Dec 14 2013, 12:04 AM
kkid   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive...   Dec 15 2013, 03:34 PM
euro911   So I set the flywheel at TDC for #1 first then cra...   Dec 15 2013, 06:45 PM
kkid   So I set the flywheel at TDC for #1 first then cr...   Dec 16 2013, 12:37 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Fuel lines at fuel rails are crossed?   Dec 13 2013, 06:19 PM
kkid   Fuel lines at fuel rails are crossed? I did tha...   Dec 14 2013, 12:09 AM
euro911   ... When I got the motor, the dizzy rotor was poi...   Dec 13 2013, 06:26 PM
kkid   [quote name='kkid' post='1970130' date='Dec 13 20...   Dec 14 2013, 12:22 AM
914sgofast2   By changing the distributor drive gear around whn ...   Dec 13 2013, 07:09 PM
wndsnd   By changing the distributor drive gear around whn...   Dec 13 2013, 07:27 PM
jdlmodelt   I thought these distributors had a slot that only ...   Dec 13 2013, 07:35 PM
Jeffs9146   Lennies914 and I had the same problem, it turned o...   Dec 13 2013, 08:23 PM
Tom   If you changed the distributer 180 degrees, change...   Dec 13 2013, 08:28 PM
kkid   Thank guys for the advice. I will check the spar...   Dec 15 2013, 11:41 AM
kkid   Checked on the injector to see if it's working...   Dec 15 2013, 04:29 PM
dlee6204   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a littl...   Dec 15 2013, 05:29 PM
kkid   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a litt...   Dec 15 2013, 06:05 PM
kkid   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a litt...   Dec 15 2013, 06:05 PM
Old Yella   Hi I always examine for the simple solution, 1. C...   Dec 15 2013, 11:25 PM
kkid   Hi I always examine for the simple solution, 1. ...   Dec 16 2013, 01:23 AM
David_S   3. If there is spark at the number one lead po...   Dec 16 2013, 10:57 PM
Bob L.   That is not the flywheel, it's the cooling fan...   Dec 16 2013, 01:51 AM
kkid   That is not the flywheel, it's the cooling fa...   Dec 16 2013, 12:23 PM
euro911   Zero is TDC. The hash mark on this fan is 27° BTD...   Dec 16 2013, 02:42 AM
Bob L.   Mine has only one mark for 27deg BTDC. I have read...   Dec 16 2013, 01:14 PM
kkid   Pulled the gas tank today and sent it to a local r...   Dec 16 2013, 10:24 PM
Java2570   Check the ground wire on the points plate in the d...   Dec 17 2013, 09:32 AM
kkid   Check the ground wire on the points plate in the ...   Dec 17 2013, 01:30 PM
The Cabinetmaker   The zero on your fan is tdc. That and the notch in...   Dec 17 2013, 10:47 AM
kkid   The zero on your fan is tdc. That and the notch i...   Dec 17 2013, 11:21 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Please be outside when trying this and have an ext...   Dec 17 2013, 11:51 AM
kkid   Please be outside when trying this and have an ex...   Dec 17 2013, 12:04 PM
kkid   Should I check the compression on the engine with ...   Dec 17 2013, 02:16 PM
kkid   It looks like I should abort the fuel tank cleanin...   Dec 17 2013, 05:02 PM
Jeffs9146   Maybe the harness wiring is different from 73 to 7...   Dec 17 2013, 05:09 PM
hot_shoe914   Maybe the harness wiring is different from 73 to ...   Dec 17 2013, 08:07 PM
Jeffs9146   Maybe the po swapped the harness and the other stu...   Dec 17 2013, 10:06 PM
kkid   Maybe the po swapped the harness and the other st...   Dec 18 2013, 02:16 PM
hot_shoe914   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Dec 18 2013, 10:38 PM
kkid   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: Hey shoe! T...   Dec 19 2013, 12:49 AM
David_S   Man .... I keep reading through this post and it s...   Dec 19 2013, 01:25 AM
kkid   Man .... I keep reading through this post and it ...   Dec 25 2013, 01:23 PM
Triaddave   I just got the 74/2.0 going last night. the proble...   Dec 19 2013, 06:48 PM
kkid   I just got the 74/2.0 going last night. the probl...   Dec 25 2013, 01:30 PM
kkid   Merry Christmas to all! My engine now squeal...   Dec 25 2013, 02:06 PM
kkid   Update with news Good: I am on the road again...   Jan 14 2014, 01:51 PM
kkid   Hey guys! Spring is here. So I started workin...   Mar 28 2014, 09:45 PM
stugray   A squeal sounds like the fan is rubbing the housin...   Mar 28 2014, 09:50 PM
kkid   A squeal sounds like the fan is rubbing the housi...   Mar 28 2014, 10:00 PM


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