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> My new 2.0 won't start, Need help!!
kkid
post Dec 13 2013, 04:30 PM
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Hi guys,

I spent last few weeks to prep on my newly acquired 2.0 and it's finally in the car! But she doesn't wanna wake up.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I know our Bay has been cold lately...but today is beautiful!!!

It turns over, has fuel pressure around 30psi when cranking(20psi soon after when the key turned off), static timing done after points gap adjusted, all the electrical connections checked I think, and what else???

Actually there're at least 2 concerns I can think of. When I got the motor, the dizzy rotor was pointing somewhere around#4 position when the TDC mark was showing in the round window. So I moved the gear in order for rotor to point #1 as I confirmed the valves were loose. But wondering if I did it correctly. I took the gas tank out as I installed stainless fuel lines. The tank was sitting in my garage for about a week or so then it developed some rust. So I cleaned inside with rust remover. But I might not have rinsed it well enough. New fuel filter still looks clean after uncountable numbers of attempt of starting the motor. New fuel sock is in the tank.

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So I am stuck now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

What do you all think I screwed?

Thanks in advance,

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post Jan 14 2014, 01:51 PM
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Update with news

Good: I am on the road again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Damn it! How fun the car is!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif)

Bad: Still running with the old motor! Damn it!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Don't tell my wife about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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Yes, I pulled the new motor out and put the old one back in there. That's the only way to get the car running at this point and started right up as usual.

The new motor still squeals (by hand rotations) even if it's out of the car, even with/without the fan. The internal noise seems to come out from of the case or between the case and head area. I now realized it cranked with the starter slower than normal. Will post the piggy squeal on youtube later.

This is what I did or changed/installed on the new motor(maybe more but as far as I remember).

1. New crankshaft seals f/r
2. New injector seals
3. Valve adjustment
4. Adjusted the end play and shimmed to the spec
5. New plugs
6. New ignition wires
7. New ignition points
8. New ignition condenser
9. Changed passenger side and corner engine sheet metals(motor came with sheet metal with holes for a/c compressor)
10. Changed hardware for alternator bracket
11. New fuel filter
12. Stainless fuel lines from Tangerine Racing
13. New fuel hoses
14. Rotated the dizzy drive gear to get a correct alignment
15. Static timing
16. New oil and filter
17. Primed the oil system prior to the starting
18. Recharged battery
19. New dizzy cap
20. New exhaust studs(6 out of 8) on the heads - the motor came with heat exchangers installed but 5 nuts were rusted and unable to loosen so had to take the nuts and studs all together then installed new ones. 1 stud was loose and looked to be glued with an epoxy like a JB weld!
21. Cleaned gas tank then installed a new sock and hoses underneath
22. Newer clutch assembly from other motor(less than 10k miles)
23. Alternator seal(rubber spacer)
24. Stainless engine sheet metal screws from 914rubber.com
25. Terry's accelerator cable
26. added TDC(white) and timing(red) marks on the other edge of the cooling fan
27. New seal and washers on taco plate
28. Readjusted fuel pressure @ 29PSI+ with a gauge
29. New intake runner hoses
30. Disconnected cold start valve fuel hose for fuel pressure gauge
31. don't remember...

My advice --- Don't buy a motor that has never been fired up or tested. It may not run like mine. Even if it's rebuilt it may not run specially if it's a resale item that a seller has no idea how it's built. Buy an engine that is still on a car or with a recent bench test result.

Now what should I do with the motor? Should I take it to Mark to examine? Well, my time and money were well spent for this phase.

I believe the seller won't take it back after we found out it has a failure. So I will tear it down to find out the problem and rebuild myself.
My journey will begin.

Thanks for reading.

Have a great day!

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kkid   My new 2.0 won't start   Dec 13 2013, 04:30 PM
krazykonrad   Are you starting the engine with it in the car o o...   Dec 13 2013, 04:37 PM
kkid   Are you starting the engine with it in the car o ...   Dec 13 2013, 04:45 PM
Rand   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at ...   Dec 13 2013, 04:38 PM
kkid   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at...   Dec 13 2013, 04:47 PM
Rand   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark a...   Dec 13 2013, 06:46 PM
kkid   One easy trick is to just pull a plug wire, plug i...   Dec 15 2013, 04:16 PM
kkid   sorry, I gotta p/u my daughter from school.   Dec 13 2013, 04:48 PM
Kirmizi   I didn't hear you say you had a good spark at...   Dec 13 2013, 05:11 PM
gunny   If you have a dwell meter hook it up and measure t...   Dec 13 2013, 05:19 PM
kkid   If you have a dwell meter hook it up and measure ...   Dec 14 2013, 12:01 AM
type47   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive ...   Dec 13 2013, 05:22 PM
kkid   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive...   Dec 14 2013, 12:04 AM
kkid   I'm putting my money on the distributor drive...   Dec 15 2013, 03:34 PM
euro911   So I set the flywheel at TDC for #1 first then cra...   Dec 15 2013, 06:45 PM
kkid   So I set the flywheel at TDC for #1 first then cr...   Dec 16 2013, 12:37 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Fuel lines at fuel rails are crossed?   Dec 13 2013, 06:19 PM
kkid   Fuel lines at fuel rails are crossed? I did tha...   Dec 14 2013, 12:09 AM
euro911   ... When I got the motor, the dizzy rotor was poi...   Dec 13 2013, 06:26 PM
kkid   [quote name='kkid' post='1970130' date='Dec 13 20...   Dec 14 2013, 12:22 AM
914sgofast2   By changing the distributor drive gear around whn ...   Dec 13 2013, 07:09 PM
wndsnd   By changing the distributor drive gear around whn...   Dec 13 2013, 07:27 PM
jdlmodelt   I thought these distributors had a slot that only ...   Dec 13 2013, 07:35 PM
Jeffs9146   Lennies914 and I had the same problem, it turned o...   Dec 13 2013, 08:23 PM
Tom   If you changed the distributer 180 degrees, change...   Dec 13 2013, 08:28 PM
kkid   Thank guys for the advice. I will check the spar...   Dec 15 2013, 11:41 AM
kkid   Checked on the injector to see if it's working...   Dec 15 2013, 04:29 PM
dlee6204   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a littl...   Dec 15 2013, 05:29 PM
kkid   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a litt...   Dec 15 2013, 06:05 PM
kkid   Nope. The injector is likely gummed up a litt...   Dec 15 2013, 06:05 PM
Old Yella   Hi I always examine for the simple solution, 1. C...   Dec 15 2013, 11:25 PM
kkid   Hi I always examine for the simple solution, 1. ...   Dec 16 2013, 01:23 AM
David_S   3. If there is spark at the number one lead po...   Dec 16 2013, 10:57 PM
Bob L.   That is not the flywheel, it's the cooling fan...   Dec 16 2013, 01:51 AM
kkid   That is not the flywheel, it's the cooling fa...   Dec 16 2013, 12:23 PM
euro911   Zero is TDC. The hash mark on this fan is 27° BTD...   Dec 16 2013, 02:42 AM
Bob L.   Mine has only one mark for 27deg BTDC. I have read...   Dec 16 2013, 01:14 PM
kkid   Pulled the gas tank today and sent it to a local r...   Dec 16 2013, 10:24 PM
Java2570   Check the ground wire on the points plate in the d...   Dec 17 2013, 09:32 AM
kkid   Check the ground wire on the points plate in the ...   Dec 17 2013, 01:30 PM
The Cabinetmaker   The zero on your fan is tdc. That and the notch in...   Dec 17 2013, 10:47 AM
kkid   The zero on your fan is tdc. That and the notch i...   Dec 17 2013, 11:21 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Please be outside when trying this and have an ext...   Dec 17 2013, 11:51 AM
kkid   Please be outside when trying this and have an ex...   Dec 17 2013, 12:04 PM
kkid   Should I check the compression on the engine with ...   Dec 17 2013, 02:16 PM
kkid   It looks like I should abort the fuel tank cleanin...   Dec 17 2013, 05:02 PM
Jeffs9146   Maybe the harness wiring is different from 73 to 7...   Dec 17 2013, 05:09 PM
hot_shoe914   Maybe the harness wiring is different from 73 to ...   Dec 17 2013, 08:07 PM
Jeffs9146   Maybe the po swapped the harness and the other stu...   Dec 17 2013, 10:06 PM
kkid   Maybe the po swapped the harness and the other st...   Dec 18 2013, 02:16 PM
hot_shoe914   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Dec 18 2013, 10:38 PM
kkid   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: Hey shoe! T...   Dec 19 2013, 12:49 AM
David_S   Man .... I keep reading through this post and it s...   Dec 19 2013, 01:25 AM
kkid   Man .... I keep reading through this post and it ...   Dec 25 2013, 01:23 PM
Triaddave   I just got the 74/2.0 going last night. the proble...   Dec 19 2013, 06:48 PM
kkid   I just got the 74/2.0 going last night. the probl...   Dec 25 2013, 01:30 PM
kkid   Merry Christmas to all! My engine now squeal...   Dec 25 2013, 02:06 PM
kkid   Update with news Good: I am on the road again...   Jan 14 2014, 01:51 PM
kkid   Hey guys! Spring is here. So I started workin...   Mar 28 2014, 09:45 PM
stugray   A squeal sounds like the fan is rubbing the housin...   Mar 28 2014, 09:50 PM
kkid   A squeal sounds like the fan is rubbing the housi...   Mar 28 2014, 10:00 PM


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