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saigon71
post Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
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My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but there were two lingering issues with the FI that I wanted to address over the winter:

1. A severe idle "hunt." The engine would rush up to about 1200 RPM, then nearly stall...repeat cycle.

2. Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying.

Last week I installed a new circuit board in the TPS purchased from Dave Sprinkle a few years back. It was calibrated according to the Pelican tech article using an ohmmeter.

I took a 210 mile road trip over the weekend to test things out. The car now idles perfectly through the entire warm-up sequence. Thanks Dave! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

The problem is that I still have the same bucking issue. All my research points to the TPS. Any suggestions on what to check next?
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post Mar 17 2014, 06:04 AM
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I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out.

I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine.

My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying."

I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem.

--- Rob
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post Mar 17 2014, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(watsonrx13 @ Mar 17 2014, 08:04 AM) *

I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out.

I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine.

My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying."

I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem.

--- Rob


try disconnecting the air intake temp sensor, see if that makes a difference.- I too had this at one time, but once i changed out the TPS circuit board, it was gone, but recently someone else had stated that in addition to a surging problem the bucking was improved by disconnecting the air temp sensor.
Logically the most obvious causes would be TPS, but if warming up partly improves it then maybe its an issue with the CHT, - just to play with this a bit, i put a potentiometer in line with the cht, and did see this clear up when i hit the right amount of resistance, also got rid of the lean running that causes idle hunting- but the real problem is either the CHT or the MPS which are not set correctly to have the proper A/F mix. ---
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post Mar 17 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Philip W. @ Mar 17 2014, 06:25 AM) *

QUOTE(watsonrx13 @ Mar 17 2014, 08:04 AM) *

I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out.

I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine.

My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying."

I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem.

--- Rob


try disconnecting the air intake temp sensor, see if that makes a difference.- I too had this at one time, but once i changed out the TPS circuit board, it was gone, but recently someone else had stated that in addition to a surging problem the bucking was improved by disconnecting the air temp sensor.
Logically the most obvious causes would be TPS, but if warming up partly improves it then maybe its an issue with the CHT, - just to play with this a bit, i put a potentiometer in line with the cht, and did see this clear up when i hit the right amount of resistance, also got rid of the lean running that causes idle hunting- but the real problem is either the CHT or the MPS which are not set correctly to have the proper A/F mix. ---


To both of you who richened the mixture by enrich ending the cht. Did either of you verify your mixtures with a wide band? The reason I ask a that my mps is already adjusted with a wide band and I'm not going lean on the mixture. Yet I too have the exact occasional 3000-ish highway sporadic buck.

I'll try the coil and trigger points next. Not sure what is causing this
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saigon71   D-jet troubleshooting   Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
914_teener   Fuel pressure.   Mar 16 2014, 04:36 PM
mepstein   I had a bucking issue. sometimes bad, sometimes no...   Mar 16 2014, 06:27 PM
boxsterfan   My car has the "idle hunt" problem on wa...   Mar 16 2014, 09:17 PM
saigon71   My car has the "idle hunt" problem on w...   Mar 17 2014, 06:24 AM
watsonrx13   I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well...   Mar 17 2014, 06:04 AM
Philip W.   I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very wel...   Mar 17 2014, 06:25 AM
brant   [quote name='watsonrx13' post='2011990' date='Mar...   Mar 17 2014, 03:22 PM
larss   To both of you who richened the mixture by enri...   Mar 17 2014, 11:16 PM
Philip W.   I have a new wide band installed and will be testi...   Mar 18 2014, 08:15 PM
larss   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but the...   Mar 17 2014, 06:32 AM
Philip W.   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but th...   Mar 17 2014, 08:05 AM
r_towle   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but the...   Mar 17 2014, 10:40 AM
plas76targa   Bob, i get the same bucking issues. It's usual...   Mar 17 2014, 11:36 AM
jsayre914   Bob, I fixed this issue by removing the trigger p...   Mar 17 2014, 01:58 PM
davesprinkle   The interdigitated traces (love that word, I found...   Mar 18 2014, 07:44 PM
saigon71   The interdigitated traces (love that word, I foun...   Mar 19 2014, 07:28 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks for all of the suggestions. I'm going t...   Mar 20 2014, 06:51 PM
watsonrx13   I finally purchased and installed a new Bosch ...   Apr 21 2014, 06:46 AM
914itis   Bob, Some may remember my long thread after insta...   Apr 21 2014, 12:46 PM
914_teener   Bob, Some may remember my long thread after inst...   Apr 21 2014, 07:32 PM
zymurgist   Wow, good info in the linked thread. Mine is doin...   Apr 21 2014, 08:49 PM
luskesq   Timing (and it wasn't off by much) caused my i...   Apr 21 2014, 09:08 PM
watsonrx13   Well finally had a chance to check the vacuum adva...   May 10 2014, 10:39 AM
r_towle   The distributor has never been cleaned...well it...   May 10 2014, 10:45 AM
watsonrx13   The distributor has never been cleaned...well it...   May 10 2014, 12:14 PM
type47   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on a...   May 10 2014, 10:51 AM
r_towle   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on ...   May 10 2014, 10:52 AM
type47   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on...   May 10 2014, 04:06 PM
The Cabinetmaker   One port is advance, the other is retard.   May 10 2014, 12:19 PM
boxsterfan   I think your vacuum line (as pictured) is hooked u...   May 10 2014, 02:08 PM
r_towle   Yup, one is advance, one is retard. Retard was lef...   May 10 2014, 02:12 PM
watsonrx13   Rich thanks for the reply, that explains everythin...   May 10 2014, 03:46 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Where does the hose with the clamp go to? It's...   May 10 2014, 04:06 PM
914_teener   I really think you should yank that dizzy out and ...   May 10 2014, 11:06 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I have pull...   May 11 2014, 08:08 AM
r_towle   Remove the other two screws and pull out the actua...   May 11 2014, 08:51 AM
watsonrx13   Rich, which (2) screws are you talking about remov...   May 11 2014, 09:19 AM
watsonrx13   OK, I reread your reply and did the following 1. ...   May 11 2014, 09:44 AM
Dtjaden   Carb or brake cleaner would work well. The RS clea...   May 11 2014, 10:08 AM
watsonrx13   Cleaned parts. BTW, I added a small amount of grea...   May 11 2014, 10:23 AM
watsonrx13   Successful test drive. The engine idles great and ...   May 11 2014, 10:52 AM
r_towle   Was at moms today. You found it.... I use whateve...   May 11 2014, 04:01 PM


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