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| saigon71 |
Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,019 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but there were two lingering issues with the FI that I wanted to address over the winter:
1. A severe idle "hunt." The engine would rush up to about 1200 RPM, then nearly stall...repeat cycle. 2. Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying. Last week I installed a new circuit board in the TPS purchased from Dave Sprinkle a few years back. It was calibrated according to the Pelican tech article using an ohmmeter. I took a 210 mile road trip over the weekend to test things out. The car now idles perfectly through the entire warm-up sequence. Thanks Dave! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) The problem is that I still have the same bucking issue. All my research points to the TPS. Any suggestions on what to check next? |
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| watsonrx13 |
Mar 17 2014, 06:04 AM
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I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out.
I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine. My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying." I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem. --- Rob |
| DRPHIL914 |
Mar 17 2014, 06:25 AM
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Dr. Phil ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,872 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States
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I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out. I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine. My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying." I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem. --- Rob try disconnecting the air intake temp sensor, see if that makes a difference.- I too had this at one time, but once i changed out the TPS circuit board, it was gone, but recently someone else had stated that in addition to a surging problem the bucking was improved by disconnecting the air temp sensor. Logically the most obvious causes would be TPS, but if warming up partly improves it then maybe its an issue with the CHT, - just to play with this a bit, i put a potentiometer in line with the cht, and did see this clear up when i hit the right amount of resistance, also got rid of the lean running that causes idle hunting- but the real problem is either the CHT or the MPS which are not set correctly to have the proper A/F mix. --- |
| brant |
Mar 17 2014, 03:22 PM
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I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well but also has a similar bucking/hesitation at 2900-3100 RPM. When I have the gas pedal set at the 3000 RPM range, then slightly reduce, it bucks/hesitate. Once past 2900 it evens out. I have replaced the TPS circuit board from Dave, new vacuum and fuel hoses, professionally rebuilt FI. Tested TPS, MPS, new fuel pump, plugs and wires. Newly rebuilt 2056 with Raby cam kit for FI engine. My sentiments exactly: "Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying." I too am looking for a solution to this annoying problem. --- Rob try disconnecting the air intake temp sensor, see if that makes a difference.- I too had this at one time, but once i changed out the TPS circuit board, it was gone, but recently someone else had stated that in addition to a surging problem the bucking was improved by disconnecting the air temp sensor. Logically the most obvious causes would be TPS, but if warming up partly improves it then maybe its an issue with the CHT, - just to play with this a bit, i put a potentiometer in line with the cht, and did see this clear up when i hit the right amount of resistance, also got rid of the lean running that causes idle hunting- but the real problem is either the CHT or the MPS which are not set correctly to have the proper A/F mix. --- To both of you who richened the mixture by enrich ending the cht. Did either of you verify your mixtures with a wide band? The reason I ask a that my mps is already adjusted with a wide band and I'm not going lean on the mixture. Yet I too have the exact occasional 3000-ish highway sporadic buck. I'll try the coil and trigger points next. Not sure what is causing this |
| larss |
Mar 17 2014, 11:16 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 10-September 09 From: Sweden Member No.: 10,787 Region Association: Scandinavia |
To both of you who richened the mixture by enrich ending the cht. Did either of you verify your mixtures with a wide band? The reason I ask a that my mps is already adjusted with a wide band and I'm not going lean on the mixture. Yet I too have the exact occasional 3000-ish highway sporadic buck. I'll try the coil and trigger points next. Not sure what is causing this I only have a narrow band AF sensor on mine (yes I know I can't at all compare it with a wide band). Before adding the extra resistor to the CHT the reading cycled at Optimal, after adding the Ohms it was more steady at Rich but not bottomed out. I did the adjustment during warm up since it was there the big problem was, have not yet fully checked what the reading is when fully warmed up. I did not use the gauge to adjust - I adjusted the resistance in small steps until the cyling in rpm (almost) went out. /Lars S /Lars S |
saigon71 D-jet troubleshooting Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
914_teener Fuel pressure. Mar 16 2014, 04:36 PM
mepstein I had a bucking issue. sometimes bad, sometimes no... Mar 16 2014, 06:27 PM
boxsterfan My car has the "idle hunt" problem on wa... Mar 16 2014, 09:17 PM
saigon71
My car has the "idle hunt" problem on w... Mar 17 2014, 06:24 AM
Philip W. I have a new wide band installed and will be testi... Mar 18 2014, 08:15 PM
larss
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Philip W.
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r_towle
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plas76targa Bob,
i get the same bucking issues. It's usual... Mar 17 2014, 11:36 AM
jsayre914 Bob,
I fixed this issue by removing the trigger p... Mar 17 2014, 01:58 PM
davesprinkle The interdigitated traces (love that word, I found... Mar 18 2014, 07:44 PM
saigon71
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914itis Bob,
Some may remember my long thread after insta... Apr 21 2014, 12:46 PM
914_teener
Bob,
Some may remember my long thread after inst... Apr 21 2014, 07:32 PM
zymurgist Wow, good info in the linked thread. Mine is doin... Apr 21 2014, 08:49 PM
luskesq Timing (and it wasn't off by much) caused my i... Apr 21 2014, 09:08 PM
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watsonrx13
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r_towle
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type47
I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on... May 10 2014, 04:06 PM
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Retard was lef... May 10 2014, 02:12 PM
watsonrx13 Rich thanks for the reply, that explains everythin... May 10 2014, 03:46 PM
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r_towle Remove the other two screws and pull out the actua... May 11 2014, 08:51 AM
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watsonrx13 OK, I reread your reply and did the following
1. ... May 11 2014, 09:44 AM
Dtjaden Carb or brake cleaner would work well. The RS clea... May 11 2014, 10:08 AM
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watsonrx13 Successful test drive. The engine idles great and ... May 11 2014, 10:52 AM
r_towle Was at moms today.
You found it....
I use whateve... May 11 2014, 04:01 PM![]() ![]() |
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