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saigon71
post Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
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My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but there were two lingering issues with the FI that I wanted to address over the winter:

1. A severe idle "hunt." The engine would rush up to about 1200 RPM, then nearly stall...repeat cycle.

2. Every once in a while the car would buck, most notably at highway speeds...it wasn't bad, just annoying.

Last week I installed a new circuit board in the TPS purchased from Dave Sprinkle a few years back. It was calibrated according to the Pelican tech article using an ohmmeter.

I took a 210 mile road trip over the weekend to test things out. The car now idles perfectly through the entire warm-up sequence. Thanks Dave! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

The problem is that I still have the same bucking issue. All my research points to the TPS. Any suggestions on what to check next?
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post Mar 18 2014, 07:44 PM
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The interdigitated traces (love that word, I found it on pbanders site, every djet owner should read it: http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/) on the TPS board are designed to act as little triggers for for an extra 'shot' of fuel. Similar intent to the accelerator pump on a holley.

The TPS wiper scrubs across these serrated traces and shorts alternately between two contacts. If this action doesn't happen, in other words, if the throttle moves WITHOUT generating these alternating connections, then the engine may momentarily go lean on a slight throttle tip-in and can result in the famous djet 'buck'. (Other problems can result in this behavior, but in most cases this is due to a problem with the TPS.)

I need to be careful to state that this should be viewed as a 'system' problem, and not as a TPS board problem. The TPS board is one part in the system, but there are others: the wiper where it contacts the boards, the leaf-contacts in the wiper stem, the connector contacts, the wiring harness, the contacts at the ECU. All of these things need to be healthy or you can get this problem: throttle movement without accel trigger.

In many cases, as djet guys know, the replacement board resolves the issue. This is fortunate, because the board seems to be the most prominent failure point in this accel enrichment system. It's also fairly cheap and easy to replace. But if simple board replacement still leaves you with the problem, then you'll need to confirm that ALL of the accel system still works.

The easiest way to do this is to switch on the ignition (don't start the car), and while being very quiet, listen for injector clicks as you slowly open the throttle. (Lean into the open engine bay for this. Put your ear as close to an injector as possible. And turn off the Motorhead, for cryin out loud, Lemmy's not gonna help you hear the damn thing.)

Another way to do this is to probe between the appropriate contacts AT THE ECU with a continuity buzzer or an LED that you rig up. You need to confirm the alternating connection as you move the throttle or you've got another problem than just the board.

By the way, all these wiring harnesses are unreliable. They've spent their life (40 years now) exposed to heat and hydrocarbon vapor and vibration. They're junk. Get a new one.
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saigon71   D-jet troubleshooting   Mar 16 2014, 04:06 PM
914_teener   Fuel pressure.   Mar 16 2014, 04:36 PM
mepstein   I had a bucking issue. sometimes bad, sometimes no...   Mar 16 2014, 06:27 PM
boxsterfan   My car has the "idle hunt" problem on wa...   Mar 16 2014, 09:17 PM
saigon71   My car has the "idle hunt" problem on w...   Mar 17 2014, 06:24 AM
watsonrx13   I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very well...   Mar 17 2014, 06:04 AM
Philip W.   I have a '74 2.0 D-jet also. My runs very wel...   Mar 17 2014, 06:25 AM
brant   [quote name='watsonrx13' post='2011990' date='Mar...   Mar 17 2014, 03:22 PM
larss   To both of you who richened the mixture by enri...   Mar 17 2014, 11:16 PM
Philip W.   I have a new wide band installed and will be testi...   Mar 18 2014, 08:15 PM
larss   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but the...   Mar 17 2014, 06:32 AM
Philip W.   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but th...   Mar 17 2014, 08:05 AM
r_towle   My 1974 2.0 D-jet is running very strong, but the...   Mar 17 2014, 10:40 AM
plas76targa   Bob, i get the same bucking issues. It's usual...   Mar 17 2014, 11:36 AM
jsayre914   Bob, I fixed this issue by removing the trigger p...   Mar 17 2014, 01:58 PM
davesprinkle   The interdigitated traces (love that word, I found...   Mar 18 2014, 07:44 PM
saigon71   The interdigitated traces (love that word, I foun...   Mar 19 2014, 07:28 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks for all of the suggestions. I'm going t...   Mar 20 2014, 06:51 PM
watsonrx13   I finally purchased and installed a new Bosch ...   Apr 21 2014, 06:46 AM
914itis   Bob, Some may remember my long thread after insta...   Apr 21 2014, 12:46 PM
914_teener   Bob, Some may remember my long thread after inst...   Apr 21 2014, 07:32 PM
zymurgist   Wow, good info in the linked thread. Mine is doin...   Apr 21 2014, 08:49 PM
luskesq   Timing (and it wasn't off by much) caused my i...   Apr 21 2014, 09:08 PM
watsonrx13   Well finally had a chance to check the vacuum adva...   May 10 2014, 10:39 AM
r_towle   The distributor has never been cleaned...well it...   May 10 2014, 10:45 AM
watsonrx13   The distributor has never been cleaned...well it...   May 10 2014, 12:14 PM
type47   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on a...   May 10 2014, 10:51 AM
r_towle   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on ...   May 10 2014, 10:52 AM
type47   I checked the vacuum advance on a distributor on...   May 10 2014, 04:06 PM
The Cabinetmaker   One port is advance, the other is retard.   May 10 2014, 12:19 PM
boxsterfan   I think your vacuum line (as pictured) is hooked u...   May 10 2014, 02:08 PM
r_towle   Yup, one is advance, one is retard. Retard was lef...   May 10 2014, 02:12 PM
watsonrx13   Rich thanks for the reply, that explains everythin...   May 10 2014, 03:46 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Where does the hose with the clamp go to? It's...   May 10 2014, 04:06 PM
914_teener   I really think you should yank that dizzy out and ...   May 10 2014, 11:06 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I have pull...   May 11 2014, 08:08 AM
r_towle   Remove the other two screws and pull out the actua...   May 11 2014, 08:51 AM
watsonrx13   Rich, which (2) screws are you talking about remov...   May 11 2014, 09:19 AM
watsonrx13   OK, I reread your reply and did the following 1. ...   May 11 2014, 09:44 AM
Dtjaden   Carb or brake cleaner would work well. The RS clea...   May 11 2014, 10:08 AM
watsonrx13   Cleaned parts. BTW, I added a small amount of grea...   May 11 2014, 10:23 AM
watsonrx13   Successful test drive. The engine idles great and ...   May 11 2014, 10:52 AM
r_towle   Was at moms today. You found it.... I use whateve...   May 11 2014, 04:01 PM


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