Bought a part here that was blatently misreprsented, How would you feel ?? Options

[toolguy]

After thinking about whether I should let others know about this issue, I decided the right thing to do is post the pictures and issue with no names at this point so he can see what was delivered to me as 'rust free'. . .
Here's the story. . .
A long time member sold this deck lid recently and represented is as straight and rust free. . here's his PM to me when I specifically asked about any rust, which was my main concern. .

"" Dave. . . Once you pay for it, it's yours. It will just sit at XXXX's shop...
Not sure when I'll get back to LA. My daughter's in Diamond Bar. She is planning a trip home next.
It is as described. Very straight, there's no rust.""

So I pay his full asking price, no quibbling, based on his representation of the condition. I make the 2 day 1200 mile trip to pick it up and here is what I find. . .rust from most of the seems , especially the rear lower lip. .
I tell the 'shop owner' the seller said no rust. . He replies "That's between you and the seller". .
So there I am, 600 miles away from home, with a lid I would have never bought in the first place if it had been properly described. Since seller that already specifically stated "Once you pay for it, it's yours", and the shop owner stating that he's out of the picture as to condition, I feel somewhat compelled to take it or lose everything as I'm already out 2 days traveling 12000 miles, 60+ gallons of gas and a hotel for the night,

I PM the seller that day to let him know about the rust issue. . . I ask for an email address so I can provide him a picture, thinking maybe, just maybe, he was unaware of the extent of the rust. . He goes AWOL for days, and despite numerous requests for an email, has yet to give me one. .
His last PM to me was that I was strong-arming him for a refund, and said "There is really no point. I have already offered a refund and all you have to do is return the lid to XXX's shop.
There is currently a lid listed at $175 that looks like crap by comparison. Regardless of what you found, this lid is worth $200"

So here is a shot of the so called rust free deck lid for the seller to see since he won't email me his address. .
My last message to him was the I felt he would also be disappointed if the same happened to him. .
Burns my butt that a long time member would actually describe this as rust free and now blame me for accepting it, . His latest PM was for me to drive the 1200 mile trip and return the hood which doesn't make financial sense . . .

SO for the seller. . is this rust or not ??

[ConeDodger]

First of all, I am that seller. Here is that ad...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=8/10+deck+lids

You will notice, that I did not represent them as rust free, no rust, free rust or even mention the word rust. Dave, when he sent me the PM saying he would take them, did not ask for pictures nor mention the word rust.

The reason I did not mention the word rust, is that I was not aware of it. The one picture he provided shows surface rust under the hinge attachment. I did not uninstall the lid. McMark or one of his shop guys did. As for the rust at the underside of the lid, I never looked up so I didn't know it existed. But again, rust was never discussed until that last PM when I said "no rust."

What Dave is not telling you is that his daughter lives in Auburn California and he came up to see her. So, representing that he drove what? 1400 miles for a $200 deck lid is not exactly accurate. Further, he expressed some concern according to him when he went to pick up the lid to McMark and states that McMark said words to the effect that "that is between you and Rob." I agree with Mark. It is between Dave and myself. But Mark does have my phone number and we talk at least every 2 weeks or so. If Dave had asked, Mark could have had me on the phone within a minute. Or, and this is where I really have a problem with the situation, he could have walked away and gotten a refund. I have repeatedly said that I would give his money back. There are two other buyers who contacted me after he told me he would buy it.

This lid is worth at least the $200 he paid and I priced it at that price because it is a pain to ship and I wanted (as stated in the ad) a local buyer.

Dave has repeatedly been offered a complete refund. He has been told that that offer stands. Yes, I told him I would not renegotiate it and I stand by that. If he had done what was right in the first place and walked away, he would have his money and I or someone else would have the lid. He'd be happy and I wouldn't have to type all of this.

Dave has stated in a PM that he doesn't want his money back. Ok, then why are we talking. He said all he wanted was my email address so he could send me pictures. I tried to do that from my iPad yesterday but I accidentally hit the send button without including my email.. Sorry. Dave has even implied that he thinks Mark gave him the wrong lid and kept mine for himself. At that point, he pissed me off. Mark is one of the most trustworthy people I know. He's not the first one to do that, and that guy got told off.

So here it is, publicly. Dave, if you aren't happy, return the lids to Mark or even just bring them to your daughter's house in Auburn and when it is in my hands, I will instantly refund your money. I will hand it to your daughter or send it by Paypal and include the fees.

But don't come her using words like "blatantly" when rust was never mentioned in the ad, in the PM's until you had already paid. Don't come here pumping people up by telling them you drove 1400 miles and not mentioning that your daughter lives in Auburn and McMark's shop is only a slight detour. And please don't forget to mention that you have repeatedly been offered a refund.

I'm sure you can be a nice guy and we would get along fine but tell the whole story.

I will edit this to include the PM where you told me you would take the lid and never asked for pictures beyond what was in the ad.

"I'll take it if we can figure out how to get it to San Diego
without damage. .
My daughter is in Auburn and I can drive up for a visit
Let me know if you have a better idea.
Dave toolguy "