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After thinking about whether I should let others know about this issue, I decided the right thing to do is post the pictures and issue with no names at this point so he can see what was delivered to me as 'rust free'. . .
Here's the story. . . A long time member sold this deck lid recently and represented is as straight and rust free. . here's his PM to me when I specifically asked about any rust, which was my main concern. . "" Dave. . . Once you pay for it, it's yours. It will just sit at XXXX's shop... Not sure when I'll get back to LA. My daughter's in Diamond Bar. She is planning a trip home next. It is as described. Very straight, there's no rust."" So I pay his full asking price, no quibbling, based on his representation of the condition. I make the 2 day 1200 mile trip to pick it up and here is what I find. . .rust from most of the seems , especially the rear lower lip. . I tell the 'shop owner' the seller said no rust. . He replies "That's between you and the seller". . So there I am, 600 miles away from home, with a lid I would have never bought in the first place if it had been properly described. Since seller that already specifically stated "Once you pay for it, it's yours", and the shop owner stating that he's out of the picture as to condition, I feel somewhat compelled to take it or lose everything as I'm already out 2 days traveling 12000 miles, 60+ gallons of gas and a hotel for the night, I PM the seller that day to let him know about the rust issue. . . I ask for an email address so I can provide him a picture, thinking maybe, just maybe, he was unaware of the extent of the rust. . He goes AWOL for days, and despite numerous requests for an email, has yet to give me one. . His last PM to me was that I was strong-arming him for a refund, and said "There is really no point. I have already offered a refund and all you have to do is return the lid to XXX's shop. There is currently a lid listed at $175 that looks like crap by comparison. Regardless of what you found, this lid is worth $200" So here is a shot of the so called rust free deck lid for the seller to see since he won't email me his address. . My last message to him was the I felt he would also be disappointed if the same happened to him. . Burns my butt that a long time member would actually describe this as rust free and now blame me for accepting it, . His latest PM was for me to drive the 1200 mile trip and return the hood which doesn't make financial sense . . . SO for the seller. . is this rust or not ?? Attached image(s) ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Apex killer! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24,094 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Dave this is going to be my last words on the subject. When you do something like this, a lot of idiots come out and though they should have nothing to say, they spill their brains. No one tried to cheat you. The word cheating implies intent. That would require me to willfully think 'I'm going to take this rusty old piece of crap deck lid and write an ad and hope that I hook someone stupid enough not to ask about rust." This is one of the nicest lids around. It isn't NOS which apparently you were looking for, but I have seen people hoard a half dozen lids that I wouldn't give to the kids to use as a sled. This one you could bolt to a car and improve the looks.
Mistakes I made: I told you it didn't have rust. Well frankly, my car spends more time at McMark's shop than my house and there is a 200 mile gap between my house and his shop. I have never noticed that rust. I certainly have never noticed rust that was under the hinge. So I'm sorry for that. I didn't respond to your PM's in a timely manner. Well, the nature of my work is that I can be in several states in a single day. I put my phone on airplane mode so the battery doesn't deplete and I have just moments to check it when I get on the ground. Sorry, I didn't have time to be your captive audience while you aired your grievances. I misunderstood you when you said you just wanted to know how I would feel. It appeared you were trying to renegotiate and that lid is worth every penny. Mistakes you made: You said you would take it and your only concern was how we were going to make the exchange. I then took it off the market losing two local sales from guys I know who are living in the reality that this isn't rust in the 40 year old Porsche sense. You told me your daughter lived in Auburn and that you could incorporate a trip to see her with picking it up. I told you our daughter lives in Diamond Bar and if you could wait, I could bring it down when I visit. Then, you took a two day 1200 mile trip and stayed in a hotel to pick up a $200 deck lid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Again, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) You misunderstood me when I said once you pay for it, it's yours. That meant you don't have to worry about it. It would safely wait for you at Original Customs. I'm still having a really hard time with the you driving 1200 miles and staying in a hotel but let's move on. Then, you went to Mark's, didn't like the lid, told him, didn't have him call me, and took it. My reaction in the PM is the same as it is now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Finally, you've been offered a refund several times but all you want is to show me some pictures of what frankly doesn't look that bad and know how I would feel? We'll brace yourself, because I'm going to tell you. I feel like you had so many opportunities to stop this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Thanks to all the guys who've contacted me with PMs on here and Facebook. This is over, let's move along... Edited to remove name calling. Sorry, that's not me... |
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