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> Fog lights not working, calling all electricians
malcolm2
post Sep 28 2014, 02:26 PM
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OK, I know enough about elec. to test a few things so here is what I found once home from Okteenerfest.

Fog lights, driving lights, whatever you want to call them just quit working.

The pull knob lights up
I get 12v in the front trunk at the connection from the main harness. (that is with the connection separated) {with all wire connected, I get no reading}
Grounds have continuity there too.

I did not get 12 volts once I took the light apart, not the bulb holder, just the light was apart and I used an alligator clip to ground it. No volts.

If I remove the alligator clip from the hanging light in the picture below and put the red lead of the VM on the white/ylw wire at the bulb holder THEN the black lead of the VM to a bolt on the car..... I get 12 volts.

So with the bulb holder or the complete fixture assembled and grounded I get nothing.

What is going wrong here?

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post Sep 28 2014, 05:24 PM
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do you have amp draw feature on you vom?

if you do set the leads in the proper config, disconnect the hot lead for the light, then connect the leads to the hot wire from the car and then the other to the hot lead of the light and observe to amp load, if there is no load check it at the splice in the trunk, still no load check fuse 10 on the fuse panel.

there is a relay behind the fuse panel and that might be faulty also where it will not supply a loaded circuit.
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post Sep 28 2014, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(messix @ Sep 28 2014, 06:24 PM) *

do you have amp draw feature on you vom?

if you do set the leads in the proper config, disconnect the hot lead for the light, then connect the leads to the hot wire from the car and then the other to the hot lead of the light and observe to amp load, if there is no load check it at the splice in the trunk, still no load check fuse 10 on the fuse panel.

there is a relay behind the fuse panel and that might be faulty also where it will not supply a loaded circuit.



I don't have AMP draw feature, but I can grab an AMP meter from my guys at work and check it out tomorrow.

You mentioned the relay, and it made me think. I have not upgraded the wiring so the fogs operate only when the headlights are LOW beam. The fogs shut off when you switch to HIGH beam. The relay is probably what does that, so it is acting like the beams are on high.

Driving to Okteenerfest on Saturday morning, it was dark enough for headlights and my HIGH indicator on the dash is not very bright. I think I had my high beams on all morning.

I will search to find which relay and if it is one of the standard ones, I have some spares.

BTW: fuse 10 is clean and tight.... another thing I did with this car is that I have upgraded the fuse box, so it is brand new, 6200 miles.
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malcolm2   Fog lights not working   Sep 28 2014, 02:26 PM
messix   is there continuity on the ground of the socket [o...   Sep 28 2014, 02:39 PM
malcolm2   is there continuity on the ground of the socket [...   Sep 28 2014, 03:13 PM
messix   is this a sealed beam light?   Sep 28 2014, 02:45 PM
Tom   Sounds like you have a bad/dirty connection that ...   Sep 28 2014, 03:06 PM
Mike Bellis   If you read 12V on the ground lead, through the la...   Sep 28 2014, 03:07 PM
malcolm2   If you read 12V on the ground lead, through the l...   Sep 28 2014, 03:33 PM
malcolm2   If you read 12V on the ground lead, through the l...   Sep 28 2014, 03:42 PM
Dave_Darling   Strangely enough, I do NOT get continuity between...   Sep 28 2014, 03:47 PM
malcolm2   OK, must have been something in my rig from the ba...   Sep 28 2014, 04:51 PM
Mike Bellis   If you have 12V to the light, the problem is with ...   Sep 28 2014, 04:53 PM
malcolm2   If you have 12V to the light, the problem is with...   Sep 28 2014, 05:00 PM
76-914   Look at the bulb carefully to see if the tungsten ...   Sep 28 2014, 05:03 PM
malcolm2   Look at the bulb carefully to see if the tungsten...   Sep 28 2014, 05:13 PM
76-914   Look at the bulb carefully to see if the tungsten ...   Sep 28 2014, 05:07 PM
messix   check and clean contacts on fuse 10   Sep 28 2014, 05:09 PM
messix   do you have amp draw feature on you vom? if you d...   Sep 28 2014, 05:24 PM
malcolm2   do you have amp draw feature on you vom? if you ...   Sep 28 2014, 05:47 PM
malcolm2   J5 Is the one. Bowlsby had it.   Sep 28 2014, 05:53 PM
malcolm2   :bump: for more conversation and some results. I...   Sep 29 2014, 06:13 PM
malcolm2   My guess on operation: When turned on and on low b...   Sep 29 2014, 06:16 PM
malcolm2   One more bump... No action on electrical issues t...   Sep 29 2014, 08:40 PM
messix   corrosion on contacts make a high resistance and c...   Sep 29 2014, 09:11 PM
malcolm2   corrosion on contacts make a high resistance and ...   Sep 29 2014, 09:22 PM
messix   corrosion on contacts make a high resistance and...   Sep 29 2014, 10:22 PM
Mike Bellis   Most likely cause of the melting was a loose conne...   Sep 29 2014, 10:18 PM
914Mike   Check the pins on your relays. If you look closely...   Sep 29 2014, 10:48 PM
malcolm2   Check the pins on your relays. If you look closel...   Sep 30 2014, 05:49 AM
Tom   So it was a bad/dirty connection? Seem to remember...   Sep 30 2014, 06:51 AM
malcolm2   So it was a bad/dirty connection? Seem to remembe...   Sep 30 2014, 02:10 PM


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