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lexatola
post Oct 18 2014, 12:08 AM
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I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on the 2270 engine kit from the Type 4 store. I'm curious if anyone knows what the difference between the kit and the Raby 2270 SR. I see they each have different HP specs. Do we think this is an actual difference or just a difference in written spec? Same cam? Same Heads? Curious if this kit can make better HP than 140? Headers? Other tested and ordained cam?

I'd appreciate any input based on experience,

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post Oct 18 2014, 05:00 PM
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Thanks again for the continued activity. I like torque but I also like high revving HP. I have an Emory 356 that puts out about 120hp at the wheels and weighs in at about 1600lbs. I want this project have greater weight to power than the 356. My thinking is that I need to get to around 160hp at the wheels.

I'm just trying to land on a known and successful build spec - thus far its hard to get this info with any level of detail. It seems like this 2270 with headers, better heads and a hotter cam should do it. I'm just trying to find out the details of what others have used successfully.

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QUOTE(lexatola @ Oct 18 2014, 06:00 PM) *

Thanks again for the continued activity. I like torque but I also like high revving HP. I have an Emory 356 that puts out about 120hp at the wheels and weighs in at about 1600lbs. I want this project have greater weight to power than the 356. My thinking is that I need to get to around 160hp at the wheels.


Go WRX or Porsche 6 then IMO.

At that point you have reached the end of what a T4 can do as a street motor with much in the way of reliability.

For that kind of power, assuming you want it drive able in places other then race tracks, the 4 is going to be spendy.

WRX engines are cheap, get you 225 - 270+ HP at the crank (depending on engine type and build), and enough people have done the swap now that its not re-creating the wheel to do it.

Porsche 6 will be ++ spendy since you will want a 3.0 to get your target and still be drive able. All the parts are out there, and folks have been doing this since the 914 came about.

What ever conversion you do, don't plan on getting the money out of it that you put in.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 18 2014, 07:23 PM) *

QUOTE(lexatola @ Oct 18 2014, 06:00 PM) *

Thanks again for the continued activity. I like torque but I also like high revving HP. I have an Emory 356 that puts out about 120hp at the wheels and weighs in at about 1600lbs. I want this project have greater weight to power than the 356. My thinking is that I need to get to around 160hp at the wheels.


Go WRX or Porsche 6 then IMO.

At that point you have reached the end of what a T4 can do as a street motor with much in the way of reliability.

For that kind of power, assuming you want it drive able in places other then race tracks, the 4 is going to be spendy.

WRX engines are cheap, get you 225 - 270+ HP at the crank (depending on engine type and build), and enough people have done the swap now that its not re-creating the wheel to do it.

Porsche 6 will be ++ spendy since you will want a 3.0 to get your target and still be drive able. All the parts are out there, and folks have been doing this since the 914 came about.

What ever conversion you do, don't plan on getting the money out of it that you put in.

Zach

He's pretty much exzachry right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I would go Suby 4 cyl 2.5 NA @165 ft lb's torque or Suby 6 cyl EZ30 series. The Turbo is a kick in the pants but a lot of extra plumbing/tuning issues. Plus the 6 is sweet music to the ears! If you stay 4 cyl the suspension can remain as it is. You'd need to beef it up a bit with a 6. But once your water cooled you have an unlimited source of heat and electrical. My 6 came with a 175amp Alt. Electric seats are the best $45 I've spent thus far but I'm not sure if the stock type 4 alt will handle those if your running lights are on?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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lexatola   Type 4 Store 2270   Oct 18 2014, 12:08 AM
Vacca Rabite   Different engines built to different specs using d...   Oct 18 2014, 03:05 AM
Harpo   I was not aware that they started selling engine k...   Oct 18 2014, 04:23 AM
Mark Henry   I was not aware that they started selling engine ...   Oct 18 2014, 07:19 AM
RobW   McMark. :mcmark:   Oct 18 2014, 05:48 AM
Mblizzard   They are. Looking around that store is like surfi...   Oct 18 2014, 06:09 AM
JStroud   You are correct, the type 4 store is now owned by ...   Oct 18 2014, 07:52 AM
lexatola   Thanks all for the confirmation that we think the ...   Oct 18 2014, 10:34 AM
Racer Chris   Thanks all for the confirmation that we think the...   Oct 18 2014, 12:05 PM
type47   Seems like if you take a 2.0 add headers, twin ca...   Oct 20 2014, 07:34 AM
r_towle   Thanks all for the confirmation that we think the...   Oct 21 2014, 08:33 AM
McMark   I find that looking at the HP numbers is just conf...   Oct 18 2014, 11:25 AM
Mark Henry   A header is the cheapest boost in HP and it's ...   Oct 18 2014, 12:41 PM
ConeDodger   I find that looking at the HP numbers is just con...   Oct 18 2014, 01:40 PM
Mikey914   Exponential power to price curve. Pick your sweet ...   Oct 18 2014, 12:06 PM
Hank914   What is there for a slight bump in HP if you want ...   Oct 18 2014, 01:16 PM
Mark Henry   What is there for a slight bump in HP if you want...   Oct 18 2014, 01:27 PM
Hank914   What is there for a slight bump in HP if you wan...   Oct 18 2014, 02:13 PM
Mark Henry   Thanks for the reply. Yes, I saw that. I shoul...   Oct 18 2014, 04:38 PM
lexatola   Thanks again for the continued activity. I like t...   Oct 18 2014, 05:00 PM
Vacca Rabite   Thanks again for the continued activity. I like ...   Oct 18 2014, 08:23 PM
76-914   Thanks again for the continued activity. I like...   Oct 20 2014, 08:24 AM
r_towle   Thanks again for the continued activity. I like ...   Oct 19 2014, 07:37 AM
rmdinmd   [quote name='Hank914' post='2099544...   Oct 19 2014, 06:38 AM
Mark Henry   I have been thinking about adding an oil cooler ...   Oct 19 2014, 09:51 AM
Racer Chris   Heat exchangers and fuel fired heaters have been ...   Oct 19 2014, 06:53 PM
Jake Raby   I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on t...   Oct 20 2014, 08:47 AM
KELTY360   [quote name='lexatola' post='2099298' date='Oct 1...   Oct 20 2014, 06:24 PM
malcolm2   Jake did you have this car at the tail of the...   Oct 22 2014, 07:05 PM
Jake Raby   Jake did you have this car at the tail of th...   Oct 22 2014, 07:59 PM
r_towle   Please do a thread on that car Jake.... I would lo...   Oct 20 2014, 05:40 PM
Jake Raby   Please do a thread on that car Jake.... I would l...   Oct 20 2014, 10:18 PM
lexatola   Here's my Outlaw.....Just for fun!   Oct 20 2014, 10:24 PM
lexatola   I have to say, being brand spanking new to the 914...   Oct 20 2014, 10:48 PM
McMark   :rolleyes:   Oct 21 2014, 01:32 AM
Dave_Darling   Another factor is that the 911 and 356 performance...   Oct 21 2014, 09:46 AM
SchwarzHorse   And if you install an engine manufactured by anoth...   Oct 21 2014, 01:25 PM
Mark Henry   And if you install an engine manufactured by anot...   Oct 21 2014, 01:50 PM
DBCooper   And prepare to stop telling people that you drive...   Oct 21 2014, 01:57 PM
RobW   That's it. I'm joining the 924 club!   Oct 21 2014, 01:58 PM
mr2by4   That's it. I'm joining the 924 club! ...   Oct 21 2014, 02:25 PM
biosurfer1   That's it. I'm joining the 924 club! ...   Oct 21 2014, 03:36 PM
Jake Raby   People want to be "builders", but they w...   Oct 21 2014, 10:56 PM
lexatola   Lot's of great perspectives added to the subje...   Oct 22 2014, 09:23 AM
stugray   What I'm hoping to learn, as an example, is ...   Oct 22 2014, 04:30 PM
Mark Henry   Unless you are stroking it stick with the stock ro...   Oct 22 2014, 09:33 AM
DBCooper   Cam I like the WEB 163/86b Absolutely. Split dur...   Oct 22 2014, 05:01 PM
Vacca Rabite   The "easy" builds won't get you to y...   Oct 22 2014, 11:27 AM
Racer Chris   40 IDFs won't get you to 180 hp without lots o...   Oct 22 2014, 01:40 PM
rhodyguy   Lex, you should take the short trek to gig harbor ...   Oct 22 2014, 03:44 PM
r_towle   103mm pistons and cylinders (use forged Pistons, J...   Oct 22 2014, 04:52 PM
Jake Raby   If torque is more important than HP, then make a c...   Oct 22 2014, 06:21 PM
rdauenhauer   I have moved toward a 2.4L combo for my engine p...   Oct 22 2014, 10:13 PM
Jake Raby   No, the next generation combo is 82X97mm using my ...   Oct 22 2014, 11:13 PM
Sfreeman615   I purchased the 2270 kit and heads from the type4 ...   Oct 23 2014, 09:36 AM


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