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Type 4 Store 2270, Type 4 Store 2270 |
lexatola |
Oct 18 2014, 12:08 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 17-September 14 From: Woodinville, WA Member No.: 17,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on the 2270 engine kit from the Type 4 store. I'm curious if anyone knows what the difference between the kit and the Raby 2270 SR. I see they each have different HP specs. Do we think this is an actual difference or just a difference in written spec? Same cam? Same Heads? Curious if this kit can make better HP than 140? Headers? Other tested and ordained cam?
I'd appreciate any input based on experience, Best, Alex |
lexatola |
Oct 18 2014, 10:34 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 17-September 14 From: Woodinville, WA Member No.: 17,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks all for the confirmation that we think the kit is made up of some different components than the turnkey motors. I'm just trying to sort out the best path. Seems like if you take a 2.0 add headers, twin carbs and a hotter cam that this would get things up to 125hp or so. The kit feels like a lot of investment for another 15HP. I'm wondering if the kit can be pumped up by a yet hotter cam and with headers? Is there 160hp in the kit there to be extracted? Any experience with this? I'm assuming that the key difference between the kit and turn key is cam and heads?
Thanks, Alex |
r_towle |
Oct 21 2014, 08:33 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks all for the confirmation that we think the kit is made up of some different components than the turnkey motors. I'm just trying to sort out the best path. Seems like if you take a 2.0 add headers, twin carbs and a hotter cam that this would get things up to 125hp or so. The kit feels like a lot of investment for another 15HP. I'm wondering if the kit can be pumped up by a yet hotter cam and with headers? Is there 160hp in the kit there to be extracted? Any experience with this? I'm assuming that the key difference between the kit and turn key is cam and heads? Thanks, Alex The to give you more to think about. The Type 4 motor is not nearly as popular as the type 1 motor, so you won't see as much data on what do do with the motor, secrets of builds etc. The key to any of these motors is to make them more efficient as air pumps. these type 4 motors can be made to put out a lot more real torque than a type 1 , so if you are driving it around town, using it for an occasional autocross, showing the car etc....those are some of the goal you need to share to get a more refined answer. There are many opinions on what type of build to do, what size etc... Once you wrap your head around your goals, you have options to consider. Build a stock motor Build a hopped up stock motor for vintage racing ( a very specific set of rules needs to be followed) Build a large type 4 motor (all large type 4 motors creat compromises that you need to decide....longevity, target rpm range etc) Build a high revving race motor that sucks on the street Put in a six cylinder motor. So, you wnt find as much information, but you will find it if you ask informed questions, and you ask the right sources. Look at shoptalk forums Look at pelican Look more here Talk to builders AJ Simms FAT performance Jake Raby Emory Brothers ( who do know, they just don't talk about type 4 too much) In the end, these 4 cylinder aircooled motors share a lot of characteristics, so better flowing heads, more aggressive camshaft, larger stroke....reall the same as any gasoline engine... For specific camshaft suggestions, ask Web Cam, there are others. Be specific with your questions, and you will get answers. What is the purpose of the car? Race, show, or street? 4 cylinder a must or are you considering a 6 cylinder? Do you want to build the motor, or buy a bolt in motor? All of that will get you past the first set of questions to learn more. Rich |
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