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VWTortuga336
post Nov 7 2014, 10:23 AM
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I'm working on stripping down my 2.0L out of my '74. I've done a top end rebuild on my '71 Type 1 engine, but am new to Type IVs and bottom end rebuilds. So, I'm looking for some advice.

So far, from what I can tell the heads on my engine look like they are still in good, re-usable condition, but the engine is seized and the cylinders are badly rusted to the pistons. At this point, would I be better off just using the BFH method to destroy the 94mm cylinders that installed now and go with 96mm's, or is there any hope in saving these? (I'm thinking there isn't) Also, there was water in the case, so what does that typically mean for internal component replacements - cam, crank, bearings, etc? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Just in the planning phase now and trying to collect as much info as possible.

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Old Yella
post Nov 15 2014, 03:16 PM
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Hi
I don't normally comment but thought I would on this occasion as I recently had my 2.0lt rebuilt.

I suggest you buy a complete used 2.0lt and send it straight to an engine builder. I think I am capable of building an engine but there are some issues which you will undoubtedly have to deal with, which by the time you have bull-shitted around with will cost you too much money, time and effort. here are a few things to consider.

1. The old cylinders are usually used beyond cost effective salvage.

2. The heads are prone to cracking and will need to be reconditioned at the least. new valve seats guides and exhaust valves is recommended. This was the most expensive part of my build.

3. If the crank has been moving laterally in the case, it will need align boring.

4. The builder can do all the useful mods like tap and plug the oil galleries, fit a baffle in the sump to stop oil sloshing sideways and starving your engine and check to see if the oil pump is worn out.

5. The cost of good quality parts is fairly expensive so why not just get the builder to do the build in the clean room and not in your garage.

I paid about 3600 for a complete rebuild to factory specs. The engine looks and functions like new. I had a new cam and lifters installed so I can run my D jet and all's working great. The engine build cost was about $700 of the total but I still think that's cheap as I didn't have to clean the case, get rid of all the waste and put up with the filth in the garage. I was also worried about assembling the motor myself due to the amount of dust which seems to blow into the garage off the street. last thing I needed was to introduce contaminants into the internals. The engine shop was like an operating theatre-very clean.

Now the one thing I have omitted is that I bought a new set of German Mahle NOS pistons and cylinders for 700 bucks off the Samba. They were 7.6:1 stock compression ratio. I was still very happy as I don't give a rats arse about having more power in my 914/4. I don't race and it's a daily driver so reliability is more important than the power. You can choose pistons and barrel to suit your budget but considering the time money and effort you are going through good quality ones are nice and may save you money in the future.

I had my engine done in Anaheim, you could buy one from someone over here in CA and send it to a shop. They will send the motor to you on completion. I'm not promoting any particular builder, I went to FAT because they had a good rap and I could drive there and discuss the build and drop the engine and pick it up. I didn't pay to have it dyno-ed and fitted it and all the ancillaries myself. I do know there are a couple of people on the forum who had motors for sale.


Have a good time spending a shit load of money.
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VWTortuga336   2.0 Engine Rebuild Advice   Nov 7 2014, 10:23 AM
eyesright   My 2.0 was a '76 with lower compression dished...   Nov 7 2014, 11:07 AM
VWTortuga336   I'm planning on doing as much of the work myse...   Nov 7 2014, 11:18 AM
barefoot   I'm going thru the same thing presently and pl...   Nov 7 2014, 11:29 AM
mapguy   I am also going through this right now. I decided...   Nov 7 2014, 12:51 PM
DavidSweden   What components do you have to change when changin...   Nov 7 2014, 01:08 PM
VWTortuga336   Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it...   Nov 7 2014, 01:12 PM
pilothyer   Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but i...   Nov 7 2014, 01:41 PM
Bob L.   You can get the 96mm pistons and if your cylinders...   Nov 7 2014, 01:41 PM
mapguy   Correct, the 96mm P/C fit with no modification. If...   Nov 7 2014, 02:39 PM
VWTortuga336   Well, I am just about to the point where I'm t...   Nov 11 2014, 12:37 PM
stugray   You should be able to get the pistons out without ...   Nov 11 2014, 01:13 PM
VWTortuga336   Stupid question time: what do I need to look for o...   Nov 11 2014, 02:40 PM
r_towle   If you cannot move it, put it on a stand, tip it s...   Nov 11 2014, 03:53 PM
VWTortuga336   Here's a pic of one of the cylinders, showing ...   Nov 11 2014, 09:47 PM
VWTortuga336   Anyone have any opinions on these fins? Also, is ...   Nov 14 2014, 09:02 AM
pilothyer   Anyone have any opinions on these fins? Also, is...   Nov 14 2014, 02:42 PM
Steve Pratel   I kept my original P&C's, & have them...   Nov 14 2014, 04:11 PM
VWTortuga336   I took everyone's advice and decided to go wit...   Nov 14 2014, 06:20 PM
stugray   You can either remove the rods from the crank, or ...   Nov 14 2014, 09:17 PM
r_towle   Remove rods from crank. Bolt the case to a long b...   Nov 14 2014, 09:48 PM
VWTortuga336   I just hit another snag...when I was removing the ...   Nov 15 2014, 08:31 AM
Dave_Darling   ...I forgot about the bolt that goes above the sum...   Nov 15 2014, 11:49 AM
Jesco Reient   I just hit another snag...when I was removing the...   Nov 15 2014, 12:40 PM
veekry9   Yes,a submerged engine needs a delicate approach,l...   Nov 15 2014, 08:52 AM
Java2570   I'd give Brad Mayeur a call: http://914ltd.com...   Nov 15 2014, 11:56 AM
stugray   No Problem. If you had waited 45 more minutes I ...   Nov 15 2014, 01:32 PM
Old Yella   Hi I don't normally comment but thought I woul...   Nov 15 2014, 03:16 PM
DavidSweden   Yes you can pay someone to do it for you. But isn...   Nov 15 2014, 03:26 PM
Highland   I agree with David. What's the point if you d...   Nov 15 2014, 05:03 PM
Old Yella   The reason I usually don't comment is the endl...   Nov 15 2014, 06:05 PM
DavidSweden   The reason I usually don't comment is the end...   Nov 15 2014, 06:18 PM
914_teener   The reason I usually don't comment is the en...   Dec 8 2014, 01:54 PM
VWTortuga336   I gotta say, I do enjoy working on my cars as much...   Nov 15 2014, 06:38 PM
DirtyCossack   Marvel Mystery Oil can break the pistons free with...   Nov 16 2014, 02:47 PM
VWTortuga336   I was finally able to move the crank and begin rem...   Nov 23 2014, 07:26 PM
Steve Pratel   It's your time and $$, but if everyt...   Dec 9 2014, 12:31 PM
VWTortuga336   Just another thought, would it be possible to do t...   Nov 23 2014, 08:42 PM
mapguy   I really like this thread, it makes me thankful of...   Nov 24 2014, 12:53 PM
funk   European motor works has cases at reasonable price...   Dec 8 2014, 12:40 AM


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