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| saigon71 |
Dec 7 2014, 09:31 AM
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What is the largest size type IV that can built and used safely as a street car without adding an external oil cooler? Thanks! |
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| Mark Henry |
Dec 7 2014, 03:12 PM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Yes and no, because I've built both with no over heat issues.
Do not use over 96mm P&C's without Nickies. Any bigger is automatically a misconfigured engine in my book. That's a pretty basic rule, why Porsche when to an all aluminum cylinder as their engines got bigger. Adding an oil cooler not really going to help a misconfigured engine, maybe a bit but it's a bandaid solution. Also maybe you need one in socal, etc., but I'm taking into account the OP's location. |
| ClayPerrine |
Dec 8 2014, 12:07 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,542 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Yes and no, because I've built both with no over heat issues. Do not use over 96mm P&C's without Nickies. Any bigger is automatically a misconfigured engine in my book. That's a pretty basic rule, why Porsche when to an all aluminum cylinder as their engines got bigger. Adding an oil cooler not really going to help a misconfigured engine, maybe a bit but it's a bandaid solution. Also maybe you need one in socal, etc., but I'm taking into account the OP's location. Mark, you may never need one considering the average summer temp for Port Hope, Ontario is 25 degrees C (77 degrees F) . Kinda like Germany for climate. Betty's stock 1.8L needs an external oil cooler for two reasons. 1. Because the average summer temp is 102 degrees F (38.8 degrees C). and 2. The AC load on the car increases the engine temp. I run the oil cooler without a thermostat, because it doesn't get cold enough in the winter to need one. (It is 53 degrees F today, December 8th.) Before you start yelling about a mis-configured engine, I have everything set according to factory specs, including the CO. The 914 owners in the desert southwest need an external oil cooer more than the Texas owners do. So it all depends on where you live. The 914 was designed with temps in Germany for the cooling load, so adding a cooler should be based on the regular oil temps you run on a regular basis. If it is too high, add the cooler. |
saigon71 Big Four Dec 7 2014, 09:31 AM
Dave_Darling Depends on a whole lot of factors. The overall ef... Dec 7 2014, 11:29 AM
Starlack I had a 2,4Liter engine with 160 HP . First i driv... Dec 7 2014, 12:07 PM
Mueller Dave,
Does adding piston squirters put more load ... Dec 7 2014, 12:05 PM
Mark Henry If it is built correctly you likely don't need... Dec 7 2014, 12:12 PM
Mueller
If it is built correctly you likely don't nee... Dec 7 2014, 12:39 PM
r_towle
Yes and no, because I've built both with no o... Dec 7 2014, 04:36 PM
colingreene Crap wrong thread. Dec 7 2014, 06:59 PM
crash914 103 Nickies, I need an oil cooler...gets real hot ... Dec 7 2014, 07:04 PM
Mark Henry
103 Nickies, I need an oil cooler...gets real hot... Dec 7 2014, 08:43 PM
mepstein It can get hot here in the summer. And my worry wo... Dec 8 2014, 07:20 AM
crash914 I get hot with just street driving. Now I do kee... Dec 8 2014, 10:56 AM
Mark Henry Yelling? Would you like to discuss your feelings... Dec 8 2014, 03:55 PM![]() ![]() |
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