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| got914? |
Dec 28 2014, 08:50 PM
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Hey everyone, just considering the above.
An LS1 is 350 hp and with the factory injection will both start and run like a dream. A real done up type 4 will sound much nicer but obviolsuy about a bit more than half the power. |
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| DBCooper |
Jan 2 2015, 04:10 PM
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That's a pretty good perspective. You can have any opinion you want, but unless you've actually driven all those different combinations to compare then your opinion isn't based on facts. Just because you "believe" something doesn't make it true.
To address the "but it's not a 914 anymore" thinking, sure, that's right. But is that a bad thing? That AC Ace/AC Cobra analogy, is the Cobra an Ace that's been ruined? It's heavier than the Ace, carries the weight higher, has a friggin' American motor so it's a POS hot rod, but looking at them and driving them, car for car, is the Cobra a bad car? Different, for sure, but less anything than the Ace? Is it less "sporty", less "pure", less "balanced", less "English"? Those things might all be true for some hard-core Ace owner, but not for any car enthusiast with an open-mind. For any reasonable person the Cobra is a great and iconic car, plus it's a hell of a lot faster and a lot more fun to drive. Trade your Cobra for my Ace? Seriously? That makes sense only if you've never driven a Cobra. So my suggestion is, if you haven't driven/ridden in a V8 914 go find a way to do it, then tell me it didn't put a smile on your face. No one's saying you have to do it to your car, just saying that it makes for a very nice (if different) car on its own merits, and it's a valid way to have some fun. OK, a LOT of fun. |
| era vulgaris |
Jan 3 2015, 08:32 AM
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J is for Genius ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 986 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
To address the "but it's not a 914 anymore" thinking, sure, that's right. But is that a bad thing? That AC Ace/AC Cobra analogy, is the Cobra an Ace that's been ruined? It's heavier than the Ace, carries the weight higher, has a friggin' American motor so it's a POS hot rod, but looking at them and driving them, car for car, is the Cobra a bad car? Different, for sure, but less anything than the Ace? Is it less "sporty", less "pure", less "balanced", less "English"? Those things might all be true for some hard-core Ace owner, but not for any car enthusiast with an open-mind. For any reasonable person the Cobra is a great and iconic car, plus it's a hell of a lot faster and a lot more fun to drive. Trade your Cobra for my Ace? Seriously? That makes sense only if you've never driven a Cobra. I get what you're saying. You keep using that analogy, but I don't think it's valid in terms of how these cars are perceived. The Cobra is essentially a factory built car; water cooled 914's are not. Had Chevy (or another large name) been importing 914 bodies and putting V8's in them in the factory I think you'd see a different attitude towards the conversion from the air-cooled purists. And I also think, had Cobras been built by private enthusiasts, you would see a different attitude towards them as well. If it wasn't Carol Shelby who had done the engine/trans conversions, in a legitimate partnership with Ford, they would just be a novelty car and certainly not worth the $1,000,000+ that they go for now. I'm not making an argument either way...just saying I think there's a reason why there's a different attitude towards the Cobra "conversion" than towards a 914 conversion; and that reason is the legitimacy of the cars being built by a famous racing driver who was backed by an automobile manufacturer. Look...if you love water-cooled cars, that's great. If you love air-cooled cars, that's great. Whatever puts a smile on your face, man! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
got914? LS1 or smokin hot type 4 ? Dec 28 2014, 08:50 PM
mgp4591 I'd think all that heat from a built up 4 is g... Dec 28 2014, 09:22 PM
Bruce Hinds They'd be different cars for sure.
I went the... Dec 28 2014, 10:02 PM
thelogo Yeah your not gonna ever find much that beat s the... Dec 28 2014, 10:07 PM
larryM depends on what you want to do with it
if you jus... Dec 28 2014, 10:09 PM
thelogo P c a Thats a laugh I though this was narp Dec 28 2014, 10:20 PM
Mark Henry To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of o... Dec 28 2014, 10:46 PM
speed metal army
To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of ... Dec 28 2014, 10:55 PM
mgp4591
To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of ... Dec 29 2014, 04:32 AM

DBCooper "If you put a Ford V8 into an AC Ace you ruin... Dec 29 2014, 08:54 AM
Mark Garriott
To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of ... Jan 2 2015, 01:01 PM
PotterPorsche If I wanted a v8 I would install in a boxster like... Dec 28 2014, 10:58 PM
Mike Bellis I think it's funny how so many are against V8 ... Dec 28 2014, 11:15 PM
CptTripps The V8 changes the weight dynamics of the car. You... Dec 29 2014, 08:28 AM
Mark Henry
The V8 changes the weight dynamics of the car. Yo... Dec 29 2014, 09:21 AM
jgara962 Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of ... Dec 29 2014, 09:30 AM
DBCooper
Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of... Dec 29 2014, 10:03 AM

jgara962
Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty o... Dec 29 2014, 10:08 AM

DBCooper
How many Cobras do you own?
Ha ha, I wish. But... Dec 29 2014, 10:34 AM
era vulgaris
Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of... Dec 29 2014, 10:43 AM
DBCooper
But honestly if someone wants to chop up their ca... Dec 29 2014, 12:17 PM
era vulgaris
And that "mine will be worth more" thi... Dec 29 2014, 06:53 PM
sb914 Wow Dec 29 2014, 09:42 AM
GeorgeRud You'll never be disappointed with a -6 convers... Dec 29 2014, 09:54 AM
mgp4591 Lycoming? :confused: Continental?? :idea: Dec 29 2014, 09:58 AM
Bruce Hinds Wow . . .
Interesting that nobody actually mentio... Dec 29 2014, 10:53 AM
CptTripps
Wow . . .
Interesting that nobody actually menti... Dec 29 2014, 11:44 AM

mgp4591
Wow . . .
Interesting that nobody actually ment... Dec 30 2014, 02:21 AM

CptTripps
The weight may not change all that much, but WHE... Dec 30 2014, 12:00 PM
jmmotorsports
Wow . . .
Interesting that nobody actually menti... Jan 1 2015, 04:04 PM
andys
gm performance parts say 575 lbs for turnkey 350... Jan 1 2015, 04:36 PM
messix
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JRust You would be amazed at how tame you can drive the ... Dec 29 2014, 11:36 AM
boxstr I have owned 5 914 v8 conversions. And I loved eve... Dec 29 2014, 11:55 AM
rnellums I did a subaru conversion on my 73 914 that had ac... Dec 29 2014, 12:32 PM
iamchappy Funny how so few recommend a Porsche flat 6, to me... Dec 29 2014, 12:43 PM
DBCooper
The 4 blew up..
Ha ha, that happened to you, me, ... Dec 29 2014, 01:21 PM
914_3.0 The last thing I would do is put a bowtie in my be... Dec 29 2014, 01:31 PM
DBCooper
The last thing I would do is put a bowtie in my b... Dec 29 2014, 02:33 PM
914_3.0
The last thing I would do is put a bowtie in my ... Dec 30 2014, 11:19 AM
Mark Henry
[quote name='DBCooper' post='2127639' date='Dec 2... Dec 30 2014, 11:28 AM
tooms351 A friend of mine ran a DE at Sebring this summer, ... Dec 29 2014, 02:29 PM
tooms351 DUH Dec 29 2014, 02:33 PM
messix wow!
the last bunch of comments here really d... Dec 29 2014, 08:04 PM
mgp4591
wow!
the last bunch of comments here really ... Dec 30 2014, 02:08 AM
Mark Henry Really relax guys, it's your car do what you w... Dec 29 2014, 08:07 PM
messix
Really relax guys, it's your car do what you ... Dec 29 2014, 08:15 PM
messix :beer2: Dec 29 2014, 08:15 PM
Rand LS.... what now? 3 or more? It's not cast iron... Dec 29 2014, 08:29 PM
Rand Ok, all this. Shall I repost what the OP asked? ... Dec 30 2014, 04:04 AM
DBCooper Yeah, I've been driving a 914/Subaru for a whi... Dec 30 2014, 11:55 AM
Mark Henry
Yeah, I've been driving a 914/Subaru for a wh... Dec 30 2014, 12:02 PM
DBCooper Oh crap, it's too late for Christmas now and t... Dec 30 2014, 12:06 PM
r_towle I have an audi a8 with a 4.2 liter OVERHEAD camsha... Dec 30 2014, 04:58 PM
BIGKAT_83
I have an audi a8 with a 4.2 liter OVERHEAD camsh... Dec 30 2014, 05:20 PM
r_towle
I have an audi a8 with a 4.2 liter OVERHEAD cams... Dec 30 2014, 05:43 PM
cali914 The 914 is a great car whether it has a subie, LS,... Dec 30 2014, 05:49 PM
got914?
I am all for people trying different engine combi... Dec 30 2014, 05:55 PM
Mueller What is your expected budget and time frame?
Look... Dec 30 2014, 06:08 PM
thelogo http://m.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-e...ml#.V... Dec 30 2014, 09:31 PM
Cracker It greatly depends upon your goals and objectives ... Dec 30 2014, 10:14 PM
rdauenhauer Hmmm ...good debate. Im one of those "few... Dec 30 2014, 11:54 PM
Mueller
Hmmm ...good debate. Im one of those "few... Dec 31 2014, 01:07 AM
returf my wife would be ok with a big 6 but unfortunately... Dec 31 2014, 04:19 AM
mgp4591
my wife would be ok with a big 6 but unfortunatel... Dec 31 2014, 05:02 AM
r_towle
my wife would be ok with a big 6 but unfortunatel... Dec 31 2014, 07:33 AM
Cracker More taste (power) - less filling (weight)! ;-... Jan 1 2015, 04:18 PM
Steve
More taste (power) - less filling (weight)! ;... Jan 1 2015, 09:57 PM

Cracker Glad to help Steve...a book called "Porsche 9... Jan 1 2015, 10:28 PM
Mark Henry
More taste (power) - less filling (weight)! ;... Jan 2 2015, 08:25 AM
Cracker Mark - I'm very happy for you. Really though -... Jan 2 2015, 09:53 AM
Mark Henry
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got914?
Mark - I'm very happy for you. Really though... Jan 2 2015, 11:20 AM
Cracker Don't be so thin-skinned my Northern enthusias... Jan 2 2015, 11:23 AM
thelogo Just curious is anyone doing a straight or v 6
I... Jan 1 2015, 09:18 PM
Bruce Hinds
Just curious is anyone doing a straight or v 6
... Jan 2 2015, 12:23 AM
CG-914 V8 is cheap power but not as refined as Porsche ty... Jan 1 2015, 09:25 PM
Bruce Hinds
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computers4kids My complete SBC conversion with AC added 250lbs. ... Jan 2 2015, 11:02 AM
Mike Bellis I have had several conversions, each one a little ... Jan 2 2015, 02:57 PM
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jgara962
I get what you're saying. You keep using th... Jan 3 2015, 11:39 AM
Cracker
I wonder what percentage of similar vintage cars... Jan 3 2015, 06:36 PM
john77 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.c... Jan 3 2015, 09:14 PM
v82go I have owned 9 or 10 type 4 powered 914s, one co... Jan 2 2015, 06:17 PM
Mark Henry
Also when comparing weights, lets not forget ab... Jan 3 2015, 08:41 AM
Cracker Again, as I stated in a previous post, weight is a... Jan 3 2015, 09:23 AM
Steve I couldn't agree more. I had a big 4, didn... Jan 3 2015, 11:28 AM
rnellums
Curious about the other politics. Does PCA allow... Jan 3 2015, 11:41 AM
Cracker The old-er stock (pre-2004) LS1's redline at 6... Jan 3 2015, 11:44 AM
Maltese Falcon
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Cracker Awesome! I'd very much like to see the bui... Jan 3 2015, 04:15 PM
messix :deadhorse: Jan 3 2015, 11:53 AM
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BuddyV
I was raised a Hot Rodder. I don't see any pr... Jan 3 2015, 01:34 PM
drive-ability I think they are two totally different animals.(LS... Jan 3 2015, 04:39 PM
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