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SLCE30318is
post Jan 10 2015, 05:08 PM
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Hi Everybody,

I am new here and still reading through the wealth of information in my spare time.

I found this one about five miles from where I live and decided to check it out. While I'm doing my research, I'd like to reach out to everyone here and gather their thoughts on this.

Owner claims that he never got around to restoring it and it's been sitting for a year at his friend's paint and body shop. He is asking $1800 for it. I would strongly consider it if I can get it for $1000 or less (maybe I'm being too hopeful).

The paint and body shop owner offered to bring it into his shop and have it on a lift so I can check it out more the next time I want to have a look at it.

Here are the videos from today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ2mpItBA60



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNAbXfQpgCU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQaaoDl2V0


I understand that this is going to be A LOT of work, but I'm willing to spend years working on a 914 project in my spare time and learn things along the way. My only concern is starting out with something that is too far gone.

All input appreciated.

Cheers,

Ian
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^
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What he said.
Indeed the dashpad appears intact,tlc needed.The car appears to have been originally red judging from the overspray.
Record,pix,the id plate on the drivers door opening rear fringe,compare to stamped number on rh inner fender,note them.
The front fender tops are likely perforated and therefore the inner fenders too.
Remove the battery,poke the hellhole with a phillips screwdriver to punch through any thinned sheetmetal.
Before all that though,clean all the funky debris and dump it,you can't assess what you can't see.
A strong flashlight and a paint marker pen in red to circle and number every rust hole.
Carry a notepad to note each numbered hole.Inspect the glass for chips,clean them all inside and out.
Easy on the lid's topskins,fragile.Open the front lid and have a good look at the well under the fueltank.
Look hard under the fenders front and back,up and around,pix everthing.Determine if the car is equipped with a front antiroll bar.
The longitudinal stamped sheetmetal box section perimeter unibody fabrication is where the car gets it's strength.
At the rear it kicks up over the axles and swingarms and must be intact to be drivable,Perforations here is bad,at the front as well.
The drivers footwell panel must be replaced properly to carry the pedals,the water may have arrived there by perforations above.
The area at each lateral extremity of the cowl is a popular place for perforation,get an awl or screwdriver into the tiny gap and
try to push through the metal.Any holes there,the fenders must be separated from the inner fenders and cowl.
This car has to have it done regardless.Treat all rubber as irreplacable and handle gently,pix everything.
Remove the targa delicately and inspect the latch seats for cracks in the grp.The stippled finish on the top is usually uv baked and deteriorated.
Inspect the underside of the lids and doors for perforations,handle the rubbers with care.
A convenient area for water to collect and destroy is the lid's topskins foldovers.
Once you get it up on the hoist have a look at the bottom of everything.
Determine if the front swingarm isolastic bushings are buggered,they must be centralized in the outer tube.
Likely the rear bushings must be replaced as a matter of course.
Inspect the brakelines for damage and splitting on the flexlines.
This is a good point to tally the repair bill to determine the expenditure ahead.
Enumerate every part and sheetmetal hole by number.

#002-Front flexhoses=hrs 2+1+1
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperC..._pg3.htm#item12=40.00

#001-Footwell hole=hrs 4+2+1
http://www.restoration-design.com/mm5/merc...tegory_Code=914=50.00

#003-930TX=hrs 6+2+4+3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-930-Tr...n-/281450387977=4500.00

3/101 things to correct.

Use a calculator to determine how much you will spend.A spreadsheet is useful.
You may have to periodically update the numbers to reflect mission creep when you spot that V8 at the wreckers.
Approach the restoration as a potential 50K 914-6,a concise record of repairs in a cognizant format may seal the deal.
A silk purse from a sow's ear.http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/purse/
A 914 calender would be handy for inspiration and to map the repair schedule.
An adventure begins,a long journey of learning and practice of skills to be enhanced as the exertion of thought hones talent.
Take the trouble to make a full inspection of a cherry 914 to see what it should look like.
You have to be strong,this is no small undertaking and requires stamina and fortitude.
Good luck.
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post Jan 10 2015, 10:42 PM
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^
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What he said.
Indeed the dashpad appears intact,tlc needed.The car appears to have been originally red judging from the overspray.
Record,pix,the id plate on the drivers door opening rear fringe,compare to stamped number on rh inner fender,note them.
The front fender tops are likely perforated and therefore the inner fenders too.
Remove the battery,poke the hellhole with a phillips screwdriver to punch through any thinned sheetmetal.
Before all that though,clean all the funky debris and dump it,you can't assess what you can't see.
A strong flashlight and a paint marker pen in red to circle and number every rust hole.
Carry a notepad to note each numbered hole.Inspect the glass for chips,clean them all inside and out.
Easy on the lid's topskins,fragile.Open the front lid and have a good look at the well under the fueltank.
Look hard under the fenders front and back,up and around,pix everthing.Determine if the car is equipped with a front antiroll bar.
The longitudinal stamped sheetmetal box section perimeter unibody fabrication is where the car gets it's strength.
At the rear it kicks up over the axles and swingarms and must be intact to be drivable,Perforations here is bad,at the front as well.
The drivers footwell panel must be replaced properly to carry the pedals,the water may have arrived there by perforations above.
The area at each lateral extremity of the cowl is a popular place for perforation,get an awl or screwdriver into the tiny gap and
try to push through the metal.Any holes there,the fenders must be separated from the inner fenders and cowl.
This car has to have it done regardless.Treat all rubber as irreplacable and handle gently,pix everything.
Remove the targa delicately and inspect the latch seats for cracks in the grp.The stippled finish on the top is usually uv baked and deteriorated.
Inspect the underside of the lids and doors for perforations,handle the rubbers with care.
A convenient area for water to collect and destoy is the lid's topskins foldovers.
Once you get it up on the hoist have a look at the bottom of everything.
Determine if the front swingarm isolastic bushings are buggered,they must be centralized in the outer tube.
Likely the rear bushings must be replaced as a matter of course.
Inspect the brakelines for damage and splitting on the flexlines.
This is a good point to tally the repair bill to determine the expenditure ahead.
Enumerate every part and sheetmetal hole by number.

#002-Front flexhoses=
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperC..._pg3.htm#item12=40.00

#001-Footwell hole=
4hrs+http://www.restoration-design.com/mm5/merc...tegory_Code=914=50.00

#003-930TX=
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-930-Tr...n-/281450387977=4500.00
3/101

Use a calculator to determine how much you will spend.A spreadsheet is useful.
You may have to periodically update the numbers to reflect mission creep when you spot that V8 at the wreckers.
Approach the restoration as a potential 50K 914-6,a concise record of repairs in a cognizant format may seal the deal.
A silk purse from a sow's ear.http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/purse/
A 914 calender would be handy for inspiration and to map the repair schedule.
An adventure begins,a long journey of learning and practice of skills to be enhanced as the exertion of thought hones talent.
Take the trouble to make a full inspection of a cherry 914 to see what it should look like.
You have to be strong,this is no small undertaking and requires stamina and fortitude.
Good luck.



Thanks veekry9! Awesome advice.
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SLCE30318is   To attempt to rescue or not   Jan 10 2015, 05:08 PM
bdstone914   You need to look in the front and rear trunks for ...   Jan 10 2015, 05:17 PM
SLCE30318is   I couldn't figure out how to unlatch the front...   Jan 10 2015, 05:22 PM
Tom_T   :wttc: .... from another E30 original owner (...   Jan 10 2015, 05:28 PM
SLCE30318is   :wttc: .... from another E30 original owner (...   Jan 10 2015, 05:41 PM
SLCE30318is   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1300...   Jan 10 2015, 05:32 PM
SLCE30318is   [img]http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/...   Jan 10 2015, 05:36 PM
Garold Shaffer   So it is a 73. Door gaps didn't look bad, dash...   Jan 10 2015, 05:40 PM
SLCE30318is   So it is a 73. Door gaps didn't look bad, das...   Jan 10 2015, 05:44 PM
SirAndy   but if the rust in the longs / suspension area is...   Jan 10 2015, 05:56 PM
stevegm   but if the rust in the longs / suspension area i...   Jan 10 2015, 06:08 PM
SLCE30318is   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2132531' date='Jan 10...   Jan 10 2015, 06:31 PM
mepstein   You don't need to look for rust. It's alre...   Jan 10 2015, 06:40 PM
johnhora   You don't need to look for rust. It's alr...   Jan 12 2015, 03:11 PM
veekry9   ^ ^ What he said. Indeed the dashpad appears intac...   Jan 10 2015, 09:14 PM
SLCE30318is   ^ ^ What he said. Indeed the dashpad appears inta...   Jan 10 2015, 10:42 PM
Valy   Stay away. I'm not sure I would buy it for par...   Jan 10 2015, 11:04 PM
Garold Shaffer   Stay away. I'm not sure I would buy it for pa...   Jan 11 2015, 09:19 AM
rhodyguy   If you want a subby conversion buy one that's ...   Jan 11 2015, 08:47 AM
veekry9   He's right,here on the North shore of Lake Ont...   Jan 11 2015, 11:33 AM
rhodyguy   the drivers side Fuch is curbed. I can see that wi...   Jan 11 2015, 02:28 PM
veekry9   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2132518' date='Jan 10 2...   Jan 11 2015, 03:03 PM
RobW   A puppy... :lol4:   Jan 12 2015, 08:25 AM
SLCE30318is   Thanks for the input and great advice guys. I...   Jan 12 2015, 11:20 AM
1972 914 2.0   Just to give you some perspective I paid $260...   Jan 14 2015, 06:09 PM
SLCE30318is   Thanks for the continued advice guys, I really do ...   Jan 14 2015, 10:46 PM
SLCE30318is   So not really much of an update, but I haven't...   Jan 25 2015, 08:25 PM
mepstein   I can see grass through the passenger long. It...   Jan 25 2015, 08:44 PM
OllieG   I can see grass through the passenger long. It...   Jan 27 2015, 07:47 AM
partwerks   I don't know, but I think I would take the fun...   Jan 25 2015, 10:29 PM
SLCE30318is   Thanks for the replies guys. So I've been seei...   Jan 25 2015, 11:04 PM
mepstein   two years ago i paid $200 for a car in simila...   Jan 26 2015, 06:10 AM
MJHanna   I would buy it for the wheels and throw the rest o...   Jan 26 2015, 07:33 AM
Cairo94507   I must be getting accustomed to seeing these negle...   Jan 26 2015, 08:31 AM
SLCE30318is   Thanks for the input guys. I'll post up a vide...   Jan 26 2015, 10:08 PM


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