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> Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number
pgollender
post Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
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My 1970 with a california re-assigned ID number is ready to go back on the road after nearly 5 years of restoration. When I bought the car it had a California re-assigned ID number because of a falsified VIN. About 10 years ago there was an investigation by a Fresno police officer that used a Fry's method of recovering the real VIN. His investigation was almost successful, he identified and recovered NINE out of TEN digits. So the car is one of 10 possible.
If the group can help by supplying any of the missing known numbers that would greatly enhance the chance of restoring the true ID number of my vechicle by process of elimination>
This is the partial number: 4702905_48. Anybody that has that third digit could respond. If I get lucky, REALLY lucky, I'll have 9 responses. Any help is appreciated.
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post Jan 17 2015, 10:53 AM
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So your Fresno officer's prior work either has the "0" in place #5 wrong, or else the "0" & "9" in places #5 & #6 respectively are transposed.

Unfortunately, this then may also reflect negatively on the accuracy of the other digits.

What it the "Fry's method" to which you referred that he used?

Have you also checked for the VIN stamped into the passenger side front wheelhouse top inside the trunk?

... &/or for the VIN plate on the inside face of the right front headlight housing in the trunk &/or the plate in the windshield's driver A-pillar?

... &/or for the Chassis No. on the front jamb of the driver's door &/or stamped in the rear floor of the rear trunk?

The Chassis # may be a way to trace the VIN too.

But I'd assume as a stolen car or whatever with fake VIN, the thieves or fraudsters probably ground them all off & removed all I.D. plates.

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post Jan 17 2015, 04:38 PM
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What it the "Fry's method" to which you referred that he used?


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Tom, Frys is a chemical etching solution that uses ferric chloride and HCL acid that is used when the fraudsters grind off the serial or in this case VIN numbers. All the plates and numbers were missing on my vehicle. It was remarkable that he recovered 9 out of 10.
I will check out the chassis lead too.
BTW he had the number right, I had transposed the "5" and "9".
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post Jan 17 2015, 05:52 PM
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Ok I found the chassis number stamped in the trunk: it is:
1239531
Now what do we do with that ?
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pgollender   Fake VIN number   Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
Gustl   sorry, but that's not a valid VIN :( it ha...   Jan 17 2015, 09:24 AM
Tom_T   :agree: So your Fresno officer's prior work ...   Jan 17 2015, 10:53 AM
pgollender   What it the "Fry's method" to whi...   Jan 17 2015, 04:38 PM
pgollender   Ok I found the chassis number stamped in the trunk...   Jan 17 2015, 05:52 PM
SirAndy   Assuming that the 09 are simply switched we get 4...   Jan 17 2015, 11:51 AM
pgollender   Assuming that the 09 are simply switched we get ...   Jan 17 2015, 04:18 PM
Gustl   IIRC, we could say, that your car was built on Mar...   Jan 18 2015, 12:46 AM
pgollender   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers m...   Jan 18 2015, 08:52 AM
Johny Blackstain   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers ...   Jan 18 2015, 10:49 AM
Tom_T   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers ...   Jan 18 2015, 03:12 PM
davep   I do not believe the chassis # was recorded with t...   Jan 18 2015, 08:08 PM
SirAndy   You guys are over-thinking the whole chassis numbe...   Jan 18 2015, 08:47 PM
Tom_T   Dave & Andy - I think he said his Karmann badg...   Jan 18 2015, 09:06 PM
pgollender   Thanks for your input everyone: the Karmann door j...   Jan 19 2015, 02:16 AM
Tom_T   Thanks for your input everyone: the Karmann door ...   Jan 19 2015, 12:48 PM
pgollender   Thanks Tom, I will contact PCNA today :type: O...   Jan 20 2015, 09:14 AM
dlkawashima   One more question: Lets say we do properly identi...   Jan 20 2015, 10:41 AM
Tom_T   Paul, You forgot the VIN plate on the right inner...   Jan 20 2015, 10:44 AM
pgollender   Back to chassis numbers: First two digits are wee...   Jan 20 2015, 11:01 AM
Tom_T   Back to chassis numbers: First two digits are we...   Jan 20 2015, 11:58 AM
SirAndy   Remember, this was Europe with long standing trade...   Jan 20 2015, 12:41 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2136354' date='Jan 20 2...   Jan 20 2015, 01:29 PM
SirAndy   I think that's why that other Orange/Black ear...   Jan 20 2015, 01:43 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2136382' date='Jan 20 2...   Jan 20 2015, 01:59 PM
pgollender   I didn't think there was a 1 to 1 relationship...   Jan 20 2015, 04:01 PM
SirAndy   I didn't think there was a 1 to 1 relationshi...   Jan 20 2015, 07:05 PM
Tom_T   Also Paul, The same thing was happening with all ...   Jan 20 2015, 08:32 PM
pgollender   Back at the chassis number. I see that a Scott Ros...   Mar 21 2016, 12:11 PM
Tom_T   Back at the chassis number. I see that a Scott Ro...   Mar 21 2016, 01:05 PM
Cairo94507   Did I miss it or did you call PCNA and check out t...   Mar 24 2016, 08:32 AM
sixnotfour   Did he try the Frey method from top and underside....   Mar 31 2016, 12:58 PM
pgollender   Did he try the Frey method from top and underside...   Apr 7 2016, 01:35 AM
pgollender   After a long slow process of contacting PCNA and s...   May 3 2016, 02:59 PM
sixnotfour   Good Job ...   May 5 2016, 01:57 PM
PancakePorsche   Shirlock Holmes aint got nothing on you man !   May 6 2016, 10:05 PM
pgollender   Reunited and it feels so good !! (It feels...   Sep 15 2016, 08:57 AM
bretth   This info is too late but doesn't all 914s hav...   Sep 15 2016, 01:10 PM
pgollender   This info is too late but doesn't all 914s ha...   Sep 15 2016, 09:24 PM
mepstein   Congrats :trophy:   Sep 16 2016, 04:45 AM
pgollender   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal ...   Sep 29 2016, 08:26 AM
Tom_T   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal...   Sep 29 2016, 11:22 AM
dlkawashima   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal...   Sep 29 2016, 09:19 PM


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