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> Fire Suppression System, Suggestions wanted
Cairo94507
post Jan 16 2015, 09:05 AM
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Hi Everyone - As my car moves forward I think it is time to consider a small fire suppression system for the engine compartment. I would like something with maybe 3 nozzles which can be strategically placed to address a possible engine compartment fire.

I am hoping some of our members may have experience with these and would be willing to make a recommendation as to what is a neat, compact system. I want to get it mocked up before we move along to paint in case Scotty needs to weld in any brackets, etc. So please let me hear your thoughts.

Oh, this is going to be a stock 3.2 Motronic engine if that helps.

Thanks for your collective wisdom in helping me reduce the chance of an engine fire which consumes my car.

Michael
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Cairo94507
post Jan 16 2015, 09:33 PM
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HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and stugray have convinced me to go with foam- thank you very much guys.

The AFFF (foam) system is water soluble and environmentally safe too. Even though the system can accommodate 3 nozzles, I think two will be sufficient. I will check this thread again tomorrow and see if by chance another system is recommended but we may have a winner here. The system sells for $339 which seems like a reasonable investment in my car.

I wonder if the insurance company would also cut me a break on my rate?
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jan 16 2015, 07:33 PM) *

HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and stugray have convinced me to go with foam- thank you very much guys.

The AFFF (foam) system is water soluble and environmentally safe too. Even though the system can accommodate 3 nozzles, I think two will be sufficient. I will check this thread again tomorrow and see if by chance another system is recommended but we may have a winner here. The system sells for $339 which seems like a reasonable investment in my car.

I wonder if the insurance company would also cut me a break on my rate?

I'm itching to pull the handle to see what it does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)

I just don't want to clean the mess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

An ounce of prevention... I hope I never need it, but it's there just in case.
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Jan 16 2015, 09:32 PM) *


I'm itching to pull the handle to see what it does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)

I just don't want to clean the mess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

An ounce of prevention... I hope I never need it, but it's there just in case.


My brother installed one in his TR4 and triggered it by accident.
I wasnt there but he said IT SURE WORKS! and that it was easy to clean up.

There was no evidence afterwards.
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post Jan 21 2015, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jan 16 2015, 08:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Jan 16 2015, 09:32 PM) *


I'm itching to pull the handle to see what it does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)

I just don't want to clean the mess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

An ounce of prevention... I hope I never need it, but it's there just in case.


My brother installed one in his TR4 and triggered it by accident.
I wasnt there but he said IT SURE WORKS! and that it was easy to clean up.

There was no evidence afterwards.


I can attest to AFFF's easy clean-up. Just hose it down and move on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

No less than 2 times during my tenure aboard the USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70), the on-board AFFF system was accidentally triggered by a dork in the fire control room. Each time an entire hangar bay (approx 250'x150') was flooded about 2' (FEET) deep in AFFF. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) The only damage was aircraft with canopies and other electrical bays open at the time due to water getting in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

I have also done extensive fire training with CO2, Halon, chemical agents and AFFF. AFFF without a doubt is the ONLY agent that suppresses a re-flash. Halon works like magic to put out a fire in an enclosed/partially enclosed space, but AFFF works almost as fast and only AFFF guarantees that it won't re-flash. In a pool of fuel 60' in diameter and about 1" deep, AFFF will not allow a reflash.

Dry chemical extinguishers will destroy your motor through corrosion. No matter how fast you hose the agent off, it will instantly flash rust every piece of aluminum it touches (especially carbs). It's amazing how fast it corrodes a motor. Personally, I would rather have the car burned by the fire than deal with the never-ending corrosion that dry chemicals cause. I would encourage anyone to test a chemical extinguisher on a junk car part and see how fast they are ruined.

I'm going to be installing an AFFF system on my Squareback when the time comes. I carry CO2 now.
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Cairo94507   Fire Suppression System   Jan 16 2015, 09:05 AM
76-914   http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspa...phoen...   Jan 16 2015, 09:13 AM
iamchappy   I went with a SPA unit i purchased from Pegusas R...   Jan 16 2015, 09:17 AM
stugray   I used this: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...   Jan 16 2015, 10:23 AM
Dave_Darling   Different agents are available, as well: Some of ...   Jan 16 2015, 10:54 AM
Cairo94507   Great info so far but I definitely want to hear mo...   Jan 16 2015, 12:27 PM
stugray   One thing I forgot to mention about my system: It ...   Jan 16 2015, 01:27 PM
mepstein   I don't think you need one. Your will be fasti...   Jan 16 2015, 02:56 PM
PanelBilly   I've thought about adding a system too, but co...   Jan 16 2015, 03:29 PM
Mike Bellis   I run an AFFF sire foam system. It's refillabl...   Jan 16 2015, 03:34 PM
bandjoey   Racer Chris fuel lines to eliminate fire possibili...   Jan 16 2015, 06:32 PM
ConeDodger   Racer Chris fuel lines to eliminate fire possibil...   Jan 16 2015, 07:04 PM
Mike Bellis   I added my fire system so I would never need to us...   Jan 16 2015, 07:32 PM
Cairo94507   I already have the Tangerine Racing SS fuel lines....   Jan 16 2015, 08:24 PM
iamchappy   I went for foam as i believe it is the best at pre...   Jan 16 2015, 08:48 PM
Cairo94507   HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and stu...   Jan 16 2015, 09:33 PM
Mike Bellis   HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and st...   Jan 16 2015, 10:32 PM
stugray   I'm itching to pull the handle to see what i...   Jan 16 2015, 10:52 PM
aircooledtechguy   I'm itching to pull the handle to see what ...   Jan 21 2015, 11:41 AM
Cairo94507   OK- after considering all of the options I went wi...   Jan 20 2015, 08:53 AM
ThePaintedMan   I have the FireSense AFFF system in my car. AFFF f...   Jan 20 2015, 02:05 PM
campbellcj   I have a 4L Spa AFFF system with 4 nozzles: 1) fue...   Jan 20 2015, 10:36 PM


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