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> EP 914 on track... finally, Test session, wet
groot
post Sep 1 2004, 09:35 AM
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I used this past weekend's Waterford Hills race as my first test session for the new car.

They threw this picture on the Waterford Hills website. Just thought I'd share it.

(IMG:http://www.waterfordhills.com/gallery/jgr5y0414.jpg)

Learned a lot this weekend, like how some lug nuts don't fit some wheels, how I needed more front flare (notice the flare extensions) and how much I can squeeze out of my Optima before I don't get enough juice to run (no alternator). More learning to come on 11-12 Sept, but this time at Mid-Ohio.
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Thorshammer
post Sep 3 2004, 09:01 AM
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Kevin,

Actually, an FP competitor, Ed Givler from Rockland Mass has installed a Hewland Mark 9 in his 914. Ed is a friend of mine, and his install was fairly straight forward.

The Axles are cheap and easy to get, the CV joints are type 1 VW with the outers being 914. 33 Spline. His setup is different than mine, his linkage goes over the top of the motor, and mine goes under. I have an earlier mark 8 Hewland with VW supervee rear linkage. Ed has the formula ford style that comes off of the side. I was able to make my shift rod run very straight but use more apex joints than Ed had to. But it seems to shift (with Lovely wife turning stub axles) well. If you go on Taylor racing website, there is alot of usefull information. Taylor initially told me I would have to install mark 5 shafts and gears they are bigger. But The cost to do the trans new with a supercase and so forth was over 7K, which I could not afford. So I am going to try it the mark 8 stuff, and change the fluid every race weekend. If it works and I don't have any failures, I will REM process all the gears and install ceramic bearings on the shafts. I have photos of both installations if you care to see them.

When you are looking for a Hewland, you need one that does not have the starter area cut off, This is usual for formula Ford application I think. Also, figure out what you want for gears and ring and pinion. The stock 914 is a 7:31, so I would try to stay with that, but if you run into an 8:31/35 it will work. You can use the transmission as a five speed with 1st as a racing gear, but only if you get a shaft with an integral 1st gear, and then you still must be careful when downshifting into it, The gear is really small and can't be abused much. One huge issue is the release bearing. I am trying a centered bearing on the input shaft, and Ed is using a slave cylinder mounted outboard of the clutch/transmission casing, and the standard release bearing cross shaft.
After you have shifted one of these transmissions, you will never go back. Last thing and I will leave you, 2 things really, Rick Hilland and RIC racing in Bow NH does my transmission work, he is fair, knowledgable and will treat you more like a partner than a customer. I highly recommend him. When putting the car in gear they grind, so start it in 1st, or warm up the motor and then shut it off then into first and restart the engine. Hope to see you on the track in the future.

Erik Madsen
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groot   EP 914 on track... finally   Sep 1 2004, 09:35 AM
seanery   great shot! Looks like fun! :driving:   Sep 1 2004, 09:42 AM
brant   wow, NICE picture brant   Sep 1 2004, 09:45 AM
synthesisdv     Sep 1 2004, 09:58 AM
brant   nother thing... was the car a previous log book c...   Sep 1 2004, 10:05 AM
groot   I ran 3 track sessions and multiple starts in betw...   Sep 1 2004, 10:40 AM
SLITS   Nice looking and mean too!

REAL RACERS DR...   Sep 1 2004, 10:51 AM
theol00   nice car! - what's the wet stuff? :unsure:   Sep 1 2004, 10:54 AM
URY914   That looks nice. Love racing in the rain. Paul   Sep 1 2004, 11:56 AM
brant   Kevin, what is your weight sir? brant   Sep 1 2004, 05:07 PM
Jeroen   Kevin, please post more pics/details of your car. ...   Sep 1 2004, 05:15 PM
d914   ok, I'm being a chicken when it comes to chopp...   Sep 1 2004, 05:17 PM
Aaron Cox   exactly what im doing with the flared roller i got...   Sep 1 2004, 05:20 PM
Racer Chris   Way to go Kevin, Good to see you on track! I n...   Sep 1 2004, 05:24 PM
Jake Raby   Kevin, Looks good! The engine is coming toget...   Sep 1 2004, 05:38 PM
jgiroux67   Nice Car! I like that helmet too.   Sep 1 2004, 11:03 PM
Brad Roberts   I see NO openings for oil coolers or brake ducting...   Sep 2 2004, 12:40 AM
groot   Right headlight is actually mesh, so there's t...   Sep 2 2004, 05:52 AM
Jeroen     Sep 2 2004, 05:58 AM
groot   Thanks. I don't know why I missed that. Ok, h...   Sep 2 2004, 08:35 AM
groot   More pics. I'll post some more "in progress" p...   Sep 2 2004, 08:49 AM
groot   More   Sep 2 2004, 08:49 AM
Jake Raby   Kevin, email me as many asyou can for your page on...   Sep 2 2004, 10:04 AM
groot   I'll put something together tonight and send i...   Sep 2 2004, 10:09 AM
groot   More   Sep 2 2004, 05:24 PM
groot   More   Sep 2 2004, 05:24 PM
groot   more   Sep 2 2004, 05:25 PM
groot   msg   Sep 2 2004, 05:26 PM
Thorshammer   Kevin, Glad to see you made it, and under the bar...   Sep 2 2004, 06:23 PM
groot   Eric, I'm with you on this. Let me know how ...   Sep 3 2004, 05:45 AM
Thorshammer   Kevin, Actually, an FP competitor, Ed Givler from...   Sep 3 2004, 09:01 AM
groot   Great info. Pics would be awesome. I've had ...   Sep 3 2004, 11:06 AM
Thorshammer   Well, Yes and no, I can't stand the way the ...   Sep 6 2004, 06:35 PM
nein14-6   There you all are! I knew there were some mor...   Oct 6 2004, 05:24 AM
nein14-6   On another note, would you all please show me your...   Oct 6 2004, 06:00 AM
URY914   Welcome nein14-6, I saw your car at the '03 P...   Oct 6 2004, 06:18 AM
groot   Cool. Do you run Summit Point and VIR? Scroll up...   Oct 6 2004, 06:31 AM
MJHanna   Taylor is one of the best suppliers I’ve worked ...   Oct 6 2004, 06:43 AM
groot   I've heard nothing but good things about Taylo...   Oct 6 2004, 07:38 AM
nein14-6   Paul, Thanks and Yes, I mostly run at Summit Point...   Oct 6 2004, 08:59 AM
flyloki   Groot- What color is that?   Oct 6 2004, 10:05 AM
Thorshammer   Groot, I am finally making some progress, Hope to...   Oct 6 2004, 11:39 AM
Thorshammer   Engine mount,   Oct 6 2004, 11:41 AM
Thorshammer   Screwed up sorry,   Oct 6 2004, 11:42 AM
Thorshammer   Inside engine compartment trans/engine mount   Oct 6 2004, 11:44 AM
groot   Ford Sonic Blue. It was on the Focus SVT and then ...   Oct 6 2004, 12:19 PM
Thorshammer   EP 2.0 liter six coming at ya big daddy If it wil...   Oct 6 2004, 03:07 PM
Brett W   Hey Eric You got your 6inches of clearence betwee...   Oct 6 2004, 06:02 PM
nein14-6   What is the rule about shifters/ shift linkage in ...   Oct 6 2004, 06:16 PM
Thorshammer   Is that what six inches looks like, Damn, I've...   Oct 6 2004, 06:17 PM
Brad Roberts   I dont have pic on this computer of our flares.. i...   Oct 6 2004, 06:24 PM
Racer Chris   Good to see it coming together finally Erik! (...   Oct 6 2004, 06:24 PM
nein14-6   Thorshammer, what’s your plan on headers?   Oct 6 2004, 06:25 PM
Racer Chris   I just noticed Erik, Your cage looks different tha...   Oct 6 2004, 06:31 PM
Brad Roberts   Erik (got the speeling correct this time) Do you ...   Oct 6 2004, 06:34 PM
Brett W   My rule book is a couple of seasons old but the la...   Oct 6 2004, 06:36 PM
nein14-6   The Oberg is fantastic! It definitely saves yo...   Oct 6 2004, 06:40 PM
Brad Roberts   Yep. I was a little concerned about the 3 inch rai...   Oct 6 2004, 06:40 PM
nein14-6   They lifted the restricted suspension rules and th...   Oct 6 2004, 06:41 PM
Brad Roberts   I normally run the Canton Mecca setup with the pap...   Oct 6 2004, 06:42 PM
Brad Roberts   nein 14... (first give me your name so I dont feel...   Oct 6 2004, 06:43 PM
Brett W   So what is the six stuck with right now? Any rest...   Oct 6 2004, 06:45 PM
Thorshammer   Lets see, Brad, They are 5/8 in every place excep...   Oct 6 2004, 06:55 PM
nein14-6   Sorry, my name is Rob Gordon I think SCCA needs t...   Oct 6 2004, 06:56 PM
Brad Roberts   Thanks Rob, Just trying to keep track of all the...   Oct 6 2004, 06:59 PM
nein14-6   Mark Eschucie makes great headers and builds fast ...   Oct 6 2004, 07:00 PM
Racer Chris     Oct 7 2004, 07:57 AM
groot   I looked into the track change with the rear suspe...   Oct 7 2004, 08:40 AM
groot   BTW... I've heard that about the track differe...   Oct 7 2004, 08:47 AM
groot   Eric, The dry sump cover is awesome. Are you goi...   Oct 7 2004, 09:04 AM
groot   Overhead view... sorry about the shadows   Oct 7 2004, 10:05 AM
groot   jbvnm   Oct 7 2004, 10:05 AM
groot   The two rod ends are held to the strut with a 3/4"...   Oct 7 2004, 10:06 AM
groot   The plate on the vertical wall is used to provide ...   Oct 7 2004, 10:06 AM
groot   This is the forward "a-arm" mount to the body. Wit...   Oct 7 2004, 10:07 AM
Thorshammer   Interesting work Kevin. The rear suspension mods...   Oct 7 2004, 11:19 AM
Jake Raby   I am "dong it" as we speak. Kevin WILL do it in E...   Oct 7 2004, 02:05 PM
Thorshammer   Jake, I hope you did not think I was talking abou...   Oct 7 2004, 03:18 PM
Racer Chris   Nicely done Kevin. It looks very simple. What did ...   Oct 7 2004, 05:43 PM
Powerman   Chris, I was thinking the same thing about the rel...   Oct 7 2004, 06:07 PM
Thorshammer   Chris, Does'nt that apply only if the relocat...   Oct 7 2004, 06:25 PM
Racer Chris  
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Thorshammer   Kevin, If I thought they were unbeatable, I woul...   Oct 8 2004, 09:32 AM
groot   I agree about the potential of the 4 cyl 914 in EP...   Oct 8 2004, 07:01 PM
groot   I, personally, hate getting into a horsepower disc...   Oct 11 2004, 08:20 AM
Thorshammer   Sorry K, Yeah I think I have!. Anyway, the E...   Oct 11 2004, 09:00 AM
groot   I may need that snowplow, too. I threw in a new c...   Oct 11 2004, 09:44 AM
nein14-6   Since you brought up the Production website.... Th...   Oct 11 2004, 10:25 AM

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