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> Buying 914's ain't what is used to be, A new twist for me
914Sixer
post Jul 25 2015, 05:59 PM
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You all know the drill, find the car, make the call and go see it. The seller in question is a little strange on the phone but I made arrangements to drive 50 miles to go see a "CLEAN" car. He said he would be at the location at 4 pm until 6 pm. Got there early and looked at the car and said it would take it. He goes, you will have to bid on it, there are other people coming to look at the two cars.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) He had stated what the price was in the ad and I had the cash in hand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I said I was not bidding and left.

This certainly was a new twist for me!
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post Jul 27 2015, 06:36 AM
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I gotta defend 914nola a little here. I used to own Exclusive Motors back years ago, we sold primarily used older Porsches. EVERYONE that walks in the door thinks their cars are worth more than they are and ALWAYS quotes KBB on what they should get. We would make them an offer that we felt we could do. It was always the seller that would immediately get defensive and start quoting prices. You start out being very cordial saying "This is the best we can do", but if they keep arguing and arguing, sure, eventually you say "well then ask Kelly to send you a check" or something along those lines. Remember, all of you deal with one or two transactions, one or two asshat buyers or sellers here and there. With a small independent dealership, you deal with them every day!!

Back on topic, Like Bill, I had many, many similar experiences as noted above. I distinctly remember the worst:

I had negotiated with a guy to buy a car that was a 7 hour drive away (14 hours round trip). I had talked to the guy for a week (because he was traveling and didn't have the documents I asked for until he got home), got all the info, negotiated a deal, even got a bill of sale he signed and faxed back to me and I overnighted him a $500 deposit. He was great, easy to talk to, very honest sounding, gave me everything I asked for. I drove up early in the morning with a cashiers check for the balance, only to see the car leaving his neighborhood on a trailer and finding out he sold it to someone else!!! I said "but we have a signed bill of sale and I sent you a check" He said 'sorry, this other guy gave me more" obviously I wanted my check back, to which he said he never got it but it was a cashiers check so I couldn't stop payment, I started to argue more and he pulled out a gun and said 'get off my property or I'll shoot you!!!" He then called the cops while I was standing there saying I was harassing him. I wanted to wait for the cops to come to explain, but it seemed obvious he knew the cops personally... so I left and lost the $500.

So...when you deal with this kind of BS on a somewhat regular basis, you may start to understand a little why dealers can be such asses. I tried my best to be honest and fair, and I think we developed a very good reputation in the Porsche community, but episodes like this make you hate dealing with ALL people....
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post Jul 27 2015, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(naro914 @ Jul 27 2015, 05:36 AM) *
... I drove up early in the morning with a cashiers check for the balance, only to see the car leaving his neighborhood on a trailer and finding out he sold it to someone else!!! I said "but we have a signed bill of sale and I sent you a check" He said 'sorry, this other guy gave me more" obviously I wanted my check back, to which he said he never got it but it was a cashiers check so I couldn't stop payment, I started to argue more and he pulled out a gun and said 'get off my property or I'll shoot you!!!" He then called the cops while I was standing there saying I was harassing him. I wanted to wait for the cops to come to explain, but it seemed obvious he knew the cops personally... so I left and lost the $500.
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Hopefully you took the guy to small claims court to recoup the $500., if nothing else.

I don't know how bad the argument escalated, so I can't comment on that issue, but it sounds like you had a legitimate paper trail, and if the cashier's check was cashed or deposited to his account, he committed fraud, in addition to brandishing a weapon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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914Sixer   Buying 914's ain't what is used to be   Jul 25 2015, 05:59 PM
iwanta914-6   :WTF:   Jul 25 2015, 06:14 PM
RobW   What a jerk. It was probably a pile underneath any...   Jul 25 2015, 06:30 PM
rhodyguy   Not surprising. When his phone rang continuously h...   Jul 25 2015, 06:37 PM
mikedsilva   Gents, this is the exact situation we are seeing h...   Jul 25 2015, 07:52 PM
boxsterfan   All they have to do is start at a higher price and...   Jul 25 2015, 09:42 PM
euro911   Either that, or he's pulling his own shill tac...   Jul 25 2015, 10:05 PM
RobW   Either that, or he's pulling his own shill ta...   Jul 26 2015, 05:57 AM
Mueller   that sucks....if you found it on craigslist I...   Jul 25 2015, 10:16 PM
bdstone914   Had a similar event a few years ago. Told the guy...   Jul 25 2015, 11:08 PM
Sedonut   That is buying cars. Many years ago I was looking ...   Jul 26 2015, 12:40 AM
JawjaPorsche   That is buying cars. Many years ago I was looking...   Jul 26 2015, 03:19 AM
euro911   So he was telling half truths then? :poke:   Jul 26 2015, 02:55 AM
somd914   Had this happen with trying to buy a boat - three ...   Jul 26 2015, 05:09 AM
Spoke   Same thing with my nephew a few years ago in Loudo...   Jul 26 2015, 05:36 AM
rvanderpyl   Same thing with my nephew a few years ago in Loud...   Sep 18 2015, 08:32 PM
billh1963   As others have said, it has happened to me too man...   Jul 26 2015, 09:17 AM
Krieger   Just a thought. If a car/part was listed for ...   Jul 26 2015, 09:28 AM
euro911   Just a thought. If a car/part was listed for ...   Jul 26 2015, 02:34 PM
thelogo   I took some major shi t here for not allowing test...   Jul 26 2015, 09:45 AM
Amphicar770   I took some major shi t here for not allowing tes...   Jul 27 2015, 09:51 AM
thelogo   I took some major shi t here for not allowing te...   Jul 27 2015, 08:21 PM
Dave_Darling   I took some major shi t here for not allowing tes...   Sep 18 2015, 09:26 PM
thelogo   http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/513896910...   Jul 26 2015, 09:58 AM
mepstein   The undisclosed auction thing is a pita. Others S...   Jul 26 2015, 10:14 AM
914nola   Working at a car dealership, and working with trad...   Jul 26 2015, 10:44 AM
thelogo   Working at a car dealership, and working with tra...   Jul 26 2015, 12:47 PM
914nola   Working at a car dealership, and working with tr...   Jul 26 2015, 12:57 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2214981' date='Jul 26...   Jul 26 2015, 02:03 PM
914nola   No offense but any body who spends more then 500 b...   Jul 26 2015, 02:17 PM
infraredcalvin   Working at a car dealership, and working with tra...   Jul 26 2015, 11:19 AM
914nola   Working at a car dealership, and working with tr...   Jul 26 2015, 11:31 AM
rhodyguy   Do you really speak to potential buyers like that?...   Jul 26 2015, 11:32 AM
914nola   Do you really speak to potential buyers like that...   Jul 26 2015, 12:46 PM
Nutter965   I suppose it's like everything in life some de...   Jul 26 2015, 01:52 PM
914nola   I suppose it's like everything in life some d...   Jul 26 2015, 02:00 PM
914bub   I used to work for an independent repair shop that...   Jul 26 2015, 03:37 PM
Rav914   A good rule of thumb I use when I sell is, "l...   Jul 26 2015, 05:17 PM
914bub   A good rule of thumb I use when I sell is, ...   Jul 26 2015, 05:37 PM
naro914   I gotta defend 914nola a little here. I used to ow...   Jul 27 2015, 06:36 AM
euro911   ... I drove up early in the morning with a cashie...   Jul 27 2015, 07:16 PM
naro914   [quote name='naro914' post='2215306' date='Jul 27...   Jul 28 2015, 05:45 AM
thelogo   [quote name='naro914' post='2215306' date='Jul 2...   Jul 28 2015, 01:16 PM
naro914   I saw your website and I thought you couldn't...   Jul 28 2015, 01:28 PM
euro911   ... And aren't cars supposed to have women...   Jul 28 2015, 02:45 PM
DirtyCossack   I once sold a bug to a guy that drove 6-8 hours bo...   Jul 27 2015, 02:57 PM
JawjaPorsche   I once sold a bug to a guy that drove 6-8 hours b...   Jul 27 2015, 03:10 PM
naro914   I once sold a bug to a guy that drove 6-8 hours b...   Jul 27 2015, 03:33 PM
Andyrew   When I was selling my Audi allroad I had made the ...   Jul 27 2015, 03:20 PM
AndyB   I had a similar experience when I Craig listed my ...   Jul 27 2015, 03:31 PM
naro914   oh we did...that was long ago...and like I said, t...   Jul 28 2015, 02:57 PM
BillC   I guess I got lucky when I bought my 914. I'm...   Jul 28 2015, 03:55 PM
thelogo   Just reviving this thread as I recently found my s...   Sep 18 2015, 08:10 PM
thelogo   http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/522551813...   Sep 18 2015, 08:12 PM
thelogo   So far highest offer is 1050 http://losangeles...   Sep 18 2015, 08:23 PM


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