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> Autocross tire squeal, Not the good kind
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post Sep 24 2015, 08:55 PM
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After a spirited run around and over the cones I noticed a rubber smell persisting. This week driving to work I heard a squeal. Today it seems the right rear tire is rubbing the inner fender where the box projects towards the wheel. The camber has become more pronounced and is visibly tipped in at the top of the wheel. Tires are 205s, but they cleared before. Clearly something has changed, and I suspect that in fact it changed during the autocross. Can you help me with ideas? The suspension console looks ok but the car has rust separating much of the firewalls from the floor at the rear. Car actually feels solid with no door gap issues.

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Either the Elephant Polybronze or needle bearings will get you the most performance with the least change in driveability. By driveability I mean noise and harsh ride. I was nervous about using the Polybronze when I did mine because of my experience with my 240Z. At one time, I replaced all the bushings in the Z suspension with polyeurathane and put coil overs all around. The handling was incredible. I could hit any corner I wanted pretty much flat out... However, my wife, who loves that car, would no longer ride in it because she felt like she was riding in the back of a pick up truck with a worn out suspension. With the Polybronze, I was pleasantly surprised. If you use these, you will find that without the shock attached, you can raise and lower the control arms with one finger. Full range of motion, with one finger. While this may seem like a parlor trick that doesn't really translate into performance, it isn't. With the factory bushings having welded themselves to the races, the control arms act like a spring with very little range. Now with the control arms freed up, the Koni's can do their job. There is very little noise and harshness and it sucks up little bumps and cracks in the road like they're not there.

I'd save the Delrin and Polyeurathane for race applications and the rubber (like original) will have the same problem once it firmly attaches to the races like the originals.

I recommend either the Polybronze or the needle bearings if you can even find them...
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worn   Autocross tire squeal   Sep 24 2015, 08:55 PM
mepstein   I'll bet the suspension console is failing. Cl...   Sep 24 2015, 09:02 PM
ConeDodger   I'll bet the suspension console is failing. C...   Sep 24 2015, 09:08 PM
JamesM   check the bushings in the trailing arm first   Sep 24 2015, 10:31 PM
LowBridge   check the bushings in the trailing arm first :...   Sep 25 2015, 06:22 AM
worn   check the bushings in the trailing arm first We...   Sep 25 2015, 09:04 AM
cary   1. console is cracked 2. alignment settings came l...   Sep 24 2015, 11:12 PM
worn   1. console is cracked 2. alignment settings came ...   Sep 26 2015, 04:40 PM
cary   I'd bet money on #1. I'll buy dinner w...   Sep 26 2015, 11:53 PM
worn   I'd bet money on #1. I'll buy dinner ...   Sep 27 2015, 08:37 AM
RobW   Do more of a closer inspection. hope its failed bu...   Sep 24 2015, 11:40 PM
Chris Pincetich   Pre-AX tech inspectors in my PCA zone typically gr...   Sep 25 2015, 08:29 AM
mepstein   Jacking up the car and removing the wheel will let...   Sep 25 2015, 11:20 AM
JRust   Jacking up the car and removing the wheel will le...   Sep 25 2015, 11:42 AM
worn   Jacking up the car and removing the wheel will l...   Sep 25 2015, 03:44 PM
worn   Jacking up the car and removing the wheel will le...   Sep 26 2015, 04:50 PM
Cairo94507   On my 2nd Six I got very lucky. When the engine w...   Sep 25 2015, 04:08 PM
worn   On my 2nd Six I got very lucky. When the engine ...   Sep 26 2015, 04:43 PM
RobW   My inner ear was cracked after 86K miles and 100% ...   Sep 25 2015, 05:33 PM
cary   Here's what I plan to use. http://www.elephan...   Sep 27 2015, 09:08 AM
worn   Here's what I plan to use. http://www.elepha...   Sep 27 2015, 09:23 AM
tomeric914   X2 Elephant's kit was easiest to install and ...   Sep 27 2015, 02:32 PM
mgp4591   Here's what I plan to use. http://www.elepha...   Oct 14 2015, 02:11 AM
ConeDodger   Either the Elephant Polybronze or needle bearings ...   Sep 27 2015, 09:21 AM
worn   I'd save the Delrin and Polyeurathane for r...   Sep 27 2015, 09:26 AM
Krieger   I have the Elephant Poly bronze in my track car th...   Sep 27 2015, 10:37 AM
r_towle   If you use rubber it will put less stress on the s...   Sep 27 2015, 07:42 PM
worn   If you use rubber it will put less stress on the ...   Sep 28 2015, 09:56 AM
r_towle   Rubber does that, ozone kills it after 40 years   Sep 28 2015, 03:41 PM
worn   Rubber does that, ozone kills it after 40 years ...   Oct 13 2015, 05:23 PM
ThePaintedMan   Everyone jumps on the console being broken... whic...   Oct 13 2015, 05:40 PM
DBCooper   Do those poly's squeak?   Oct 13 2015, 06:24 PM
worn   Do those poly's squeak? I replaced my sway b...   Oct 13 2015, 07:44 PM
ThePaintedMan   They don't squeak if you install zerk fittings...   Oct 13 2015, 08:06 PM


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