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> GT cooler install, Setrab unit from PMS
rtalich
post Oct 17 2015, 10:48 AM
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I know there isn't a right or wrong way to install (or maybe there is). Just would like to know or get idea's from people that have done this particular install. Is there a prefabbed bracket I can buy? Or do I simply bolt this as close to the front as I possibly can? Using isolation mounts of course.

Also, how is the bottom shroud mounted?

I have a few ideas of how I want to mount... just would like to see what others have done. Thanks!


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post Oct 19 2015, 08:27 AM
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We went a different route with Huey because we drive him for trips and want to use the front trunk area. We got a flatter style cooler and mounted it on the floor, that way the air is not heated up until it passes through the cooler and out, and the shroud does not get hot thus heating up everything in the front trunk (like the beer cooler that fits nicely up there!!). It also allows for a much flatter shroud meaning you have more open depth to use, but it takes up more of the floor space...so a trade off...
Unfortunately I don't have a picture of it (for some reason??) and its currently at the shop to get the rear suspension fixed. If I can sneak over there and get a few pics, I will

For Papa Smurf, we fabricated a bracket system to vent it out the hood...
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post Oct 19 2015, 09:16 AM
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Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

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post Oct 19 2015, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Oct 19 2015, 08:16 AM) *
Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

That would be true in a static environment.

However, if you increase air speed after the cooler you can expel that same air just as efficiently with a smaller size outlet.
Which is exactly what the louvers do ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 19 2015, 02:53 PM) *

That would be true in a static environment.

However, if you increase air speed after the cooler you can expel that same air just as efficiently with a smaller size outlet.
Which is exactly what the louvers do ...
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It is true that louvers create a pressure differential where one would not otherwise exist, e.g. at the top of a prototype fender. My statement earlier about exit sizing assumes good air flow into a low pressure area. I'm curious to know how louvers totalling what look like maybe 1 sq. inch each can match flow of a large (100-200 sq. inch) opening into a low pressure area with a lip at the leading edge ...

Granted we are talking about a supplemental oil cooler here (and possibly a street application), so ideal exit flow may not be needed. In such a case louvers may be good enough.
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rtalich   GT cooler install   Oct 17 2015, 10:48 AM
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Cairo94507   :popcorn:   Oct 19 2015, 06:48 AM
naro914   We went a different route with Huey because we dri...   Oct 19 2015, 08:27 AM
stownsen914   Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area...   Oct 19 2015, 09:16 AM
SirAndy   Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area...   Oct 19 2015, 12:53 PM
mepstein   Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface are...   Oct 19 2015, 01:29 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2254166' date='Oct 19 ...   Oct 19 2015, 01:36 PM
stownsen914   That would be true in a static environment. Howe...   Oct 19 2015, 01:41 PM
SirAndy   Granted we are talking about a supplemental oil co...   Oct 19 2015, 01:49 PM
naro914   Scott's right. Obviously, air expands when hea...   Oct 19 2015, 09:33 AM
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