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r_towle
post Oct 26 2015, 09:31 PM
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Has anyone tried roller lifters in a type 4, or any flat motor?
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:34 PM
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75 percent here in 914's? Seriously? How many engines is that? Anyone here know anyone who's buying a Raby engine?





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post Oct 29 2015, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Oct 29 2015, 12:34 AM) *

75 percent here in 914's? Seriously? How many engines is that? Anyone here know anyone who's buying a Raby engine?

Well, I am. Jake has my engine too. Pulled it a couple weeks ago to build into his 2270 SR.

This summer I picked up my first 914, a 1973 1.7. The body was in great condition, but I knew I wanted to replace the 1.7 with something with a bit more punch. My son and I are DYIing everything else... interior, body, electrical, even trying my hand a little welding. But for the engine I wanted the best and it's beyond me and my teenage son so we went to see Jake to talk about what he could do.

I have to say that even though he's just declared himself an a-hole, Jake was anything but. He was incredibly generous and gracious with his time; my boy and I ended up spending the better part of a day with him in his workshop looking at cars, talking engines and life in general.

I bought this car as a project for my son and me to have something to bond over as I see him start to pull away into his teenager years. I watched him light up as Jake walked him around the shop, explained how engines work, described what makes an air-cooled engine special, talked about how he was going to get our engine to make more power, and patiently answered every question.

Since then my boy has jumped in to our build with an enthusiasm and passion he typically only shows for video games. Together we got the 1.7 running like a top this summer and there were times when he literally took the wrench out of my hands while doing it. I'm beyond grateful for what Jake did to inspire a 13-year-old like that.

And incidentally, Jud and everyone else we've talked with at RAT are great folks, too. We can't wait to have that Massive Type 4 in our 914!

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r_towle   Roller lifters   Oct 26 2015, 09:31 PM
rdauenhauer   Thread   Oct 26 2015, 10:39 PM
toon1   that was such a cool concept. it would be nice to ...   Oct 26 2015, 11:26 PM
Mueller   that was such a cool concept. it would be nice to...   Oct 26 2015, 11:50 PM
Mark Henry   that was such a cool concept. it would be nice t...   Oct 27 2015, 07:00 AM
Jake Raby   I build lots of engines with them. Tons of torque ...   Oct 27 2015, 08:21 AM
914werke   .. and a vendor willing to sell & support them...   Oct 27 2015, 08:38 AM
Mueller   .. and a vendor willing to sell & support the...   Oct 27 2015, 08:47 AM
Randal   .. and a vendor willing to sell & support th...   Oct 31 2015, 09:46 AM
toon1   .. and a vendor willing to sell & support th...   Oct 27 2015, 09:29 AM
Mueller   [quote name='Mueller' post='2257445' date='Oct 27...   Oct 27 2015, 09:49 AM
Jake Raby   Selling parts wasn't for me. Took me a decade ...   Oct 27 2015, 12:00 PM
r_towle   Roller rockers need bushings, then we just need to...   Oct 27 2015, 07:51 PM
Elliot Cannon   It would be nice if someone made ceramic lifters a...   Oct 27 2015, 09:06 PM
toon1   Spoke with a guy today about doing this. He said, ...   Oct 27 2015, 09:08 PM
DBCooper   You'll up your horsepower by what, five percen...   Oct 27 2015, 09:15 PM
Dave_Darling   Mostly so we can use current motor oils without wi...   Oct 28 2015, 09:04 AM
DBCooper   Mostly so we can use current motor oils without w...   Oct 28 2015, 09:38 AM
Jake Raby   The problems you will have will be with properly c...   Oct 28 2015, 12:11 PM
r_towle   So in following my question, you have done this an...   Oct 28 2015, 06:54 PM
Jake Raby   So in following my question, you have done this a...   Oct 28 2015, 09:11 PM
914werke   Sigh... Right Jake you are the only one smart eno...   Oct 28 2015, 09:42 PM
914werke   where do you (did you) get Ceramic lifters?   Oct 28 2015, 09:49 PM
Elliot Cannon   where do you (did you) get Ceramic lifters? Mine...   Oct 31 2015, 04:03 PM
rdauenhauer   :popcorn:   Oct 28 2015, 09:51 PM
Jake Raby   Anyone can do this thats willing to spend enough t...   Oct 28 2015, 10:15 PM
DBCooper   75 percent here in 914's? Seriously? How man...   Oct 28 2015, 10:34 PM
poorsche914   75 percent here in 914's? Seriously? How man...   Oct 28 2015, 11:11 PM
JoeD   75 percent here in 914's? Seriously? How ma...   Oct 29 2015, 06:43 AM
IN RANGE inc.   A Raby roller motor is the Smoothest type four wit...   Oct 29 2015, 08:52 AM
DBCooper   A Raby roller motor is the Smoothest type four wi...   Oct 29 2015, 09:39 AM
IN RANGE inc.   A Raby roller motor is the Smoothest type four w...   Oct 29 2015, 09:54 AM
DBCooper   [quote name='DBCooper' post='2258330' date='Oct 2...   Oct 29 2015, 10:01 AM
IN RANGE inc.   [quote name='DBCooper' post='2258330' date='Oct ...   Oct 29 2015, 10:19 AM
poorsche914   ... Also I was down there last week dropping off a...   Oct 29 2015, 10:48 AM
Jake Raby   Classic. DB asks for a show of hands of who is on ...   Oct 29 2015, 10:18 AM
DBCooper   Classic. DB asks for a show of hands of who is on...   Oct 29 2015, 02:15 PM
toon1   Classic. DB asks for a show of hands of who is o...   Oct 29 2015, 03:08 PM
rhodyguy   And...when you start 'sharing' proprietary...   Oct 29 2015, 11:00 AM
Jake Raby   And...when you start 'sharing' proprietar...   Oct 29 2015, 11:03 AM
IN RANGE inc.   Here's what 125 hp per cylinder aircooled look...   Oct 29 2015, 11:25 AM
Jake Raby   Here's what 125 hp per cylinder aircooled loo...   Oct 29 2015, 12:12 PM
mr2by4   Here's what 125 hp per cylinder aircooled loo...   Oct 29 2015, 03:31 PM
76-914   If your not a CW why spend BIG $$$...   Oct 29 2015, 03:46 PM
jor   If your not a CW why spend BIG $$...   Oct 29 2015, 04:07 PM
DavidSweden   If your not a CW why spend BIG $$...   Oct 29 2015, 04:10 PM
Mueller   If your not a CW why spend BIG $$...   Oct 29 2015, 07:11 PM
DBCooper   I generally like buttermilk. Cold. Tall glass. ...   Oct 29 2015, 10:36 PM
toon1   If your not a CW why spend BIG $$...   Oct 29 2015, 09:00 PM
DBCooper   Ha ha ha ha. Tits. Ha ha ha ha.   Oct 29 2015, 04:13 PM
Jake Raby   Somewhere there's a grandma getting a tit job ...   Oct 29 2015, 04:19 PM
r_towle   Jake made me laugh, post #24 Something I also say...   Oct 29 2015, 04:25 PM
Mueller   Even with pictures, I doubt many could replicate t...   Oct 29 2015, 07:20 PM
Harpo   Can we please stay on topic of roller cams or even...   Oct 30 2015, 08:10 AM
Steve Pratel   I just got done with a 2056 build, following 2 yea...   Oct 30 2015, 09:31 AM
DBCooper   I also found that solid lifters, a performance gr...   Oct 30 2015, 10:10 AM
Mueller   I also found that solid lifters, a performance g...   Oct 30 2015, 11:32 AM
76-914   [quote name='76-914' post='2258438' date='Oc...   Oct 30 2015, 09:58 AM
914werke   And...when you start 'sharing' proprieta...   Oct 30 2015, 12:42 PM
Jake Raby   If an idea is novel, then it is patentable, these ...   Oct 30 2015, 05:32 PM
r_towle   I found these, of interest is the roller lifters. ...   Oct 30 2015, 08:31 PM
Jake Raby   Those are .742 Harley lifters. The wheel diameter ...   Oct 31 2015, 05:53 AM
HAM Inc   Those are .742 Harley lifters. The wheel diameter...   Oct 31 2015, 09:32 AM
r_towle   I was more interested in the fact that there is no...   Oct 31 2015, 08:17 AM
WLD419   Maybe I'm not seeing something but those rolle...   Oct 31 2015, 12:34 PM
r_towle   Maybe I'm not seeing something but those roll...   Oct 31 2015, 02:09 PM
scott_in_nh   Maybe I'm not seeing something but those rol...   Oct 31 2015, 03:39 PM
Dave_Darling   What force would make them twist if they are in co...   Oct 31 2015, 07:02 PM
Jake Raby   The mechanical tendency of the lifter is to rotate...   Oct 31 2015, 09:29 PM
r_towle   The mechanical tendency of the lifter is to rotat...   Nov 1 2015, 09:14 AM
DBCooper   After all is said and done, what is the benefit o...   Nov 1 2015, 09:34 AM
rhodyguy   No mr 914werke, you have no idea what you're t...   Nov 1 2015, 08:33 AM
Mark Henry   I have a set of ceramics sitting on the shelf :ev...   Nov 1 2015, 10:08 AM
Mueller   Maybe it's just me, but I want my next Type IV...   Nov 1 2015, 10:44 AM
r_towle   Maybe it's just me, but I want my next Type I...   Nov 1 2015, 11:21 AM
stugray   Maybe it's just me, but I want my next Type ...   Nov 1 2015, 12:02 PM
Mueller   Sorry...more OT...dual Ducati converted to single ...   Nov 1 2015, 12:25 PM
DBCooper   I don't understand why you wouldn't just a...   Nov 1 2015, 12:58 PM
r_towle   I don't understand why you wouldn't just ...   Nov 1 2015, 04:41 PM
DBCooper   Sure, but it's a quest of diminishing returns,...   Nov 1 2015, 04:56 PM
r_towle   So you get it, we each do things differently. Some...   Nov 1 2015, 04:59 PM
DBCooper   Sure, I understand it, Rich. You mentioned me bei...   Nov 1 2015, 05:24 PM
Jake Raby   To many the quest of taking something that many co...   Nov 1 2015, 09:32 PM
veekry9   An answer to the question:What is your quest? :D ...   Nov 1 2015, 10:48 PM
DBCooper   Jake, you really don’t need to explain hot roddi...   Nov 2 2015, 10:47 AM
76-914   Jake, you really don’t need to explain hot rodd...   Nov 4 2015, 09:18 AM
rhodyguy   'Evolving'. Either that or parish.   Nov 2 2015, 10:54 AM
Jake Raby   This thread is wildly off topic. When anyone who w...   Nov 3 2015, 11:07 AM
Mueller   This thread is wildly off topic. When anyone who ...   Nov 3 2015, 12:48 PM
Jake Raby   This thread is wildly off topic. When anyone who...   Nov 3 2015, 10:24 PM
ablesnead   I think Cervantes would agree that D B Cooper has ...   Nov 3 2015, 10:26 PM


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