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> Autonomous vehicles vs. 914, Your Driving In The Days Of The Wild Old West!
Skydance
post Dec 24 2015, 08:20 AM
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Autonomous vehicles will render our old cars useless, and therefore worthless.

I don't think so.

Horse people talked about these same concerns ever since horses stopped being beasts of burden. Today, the recreational use of horses has increased the horse population to it's highest number in the past fifty years. Considering the cost of ownership, shrinking countryside, escalating environmental restriction, and many other issues we still have a high and healthy horse population.

Autonomous vehicles will hit us fast, an avalanche of them is on the way. Level four driverless cars will be taking the kids to school, circling back to take me to work, and then picking up the dog at the groomer. Driverless cars make good sense, and for many reasons. We all get the concept. After all the safe shuttling is done, I think a lot of properly wired guys and girls will feel like taking a good old car for a real drive. I don't think we'll see people lose desire for driving, in fact I think the opposite is likely.

Check the oil, enjoy your ride, your living in the days of the wild old west!
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rick 918-S
post Dec 25 2015, 07:50 AM
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There will always be fuel. The government can mandate what ever they want. But when you step in front of a fuel truck your going to get run over. There is only so much you can legislate before the people wise up. Can you imagine the lower middle class having to choose between a tesla or life beyond the reach of their bicycle. Trapped in life by the good intensions of some out of touch social engineer? Can't happen.
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post Dec 25 2015, 09:41 AM
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There will always be fuel. The government can mandate what ever they want. But when you step in front of a fuel truck your going to get run over. There is only so much you can legislate before the people wise up. Can you imagine the lower middle class having to choose between a tesla or life beyond the reach of their bicycle. Trapped in life by the good intensions of some out of touch social engineer? Can't happen.

Agree with Rick.

Also, do you believe that tractor trailers, railroad freight trains, airliners, and ships will be EVs in 20 years? If refineries are making diesel and jet fuel, they'll be making gasoline too.
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post Dec 28 2015, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(Big Len @ Dec 25 2015, 07:41 AM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Dec 25 2015, 08:50 AM) *

There will always be fuel. The government can mandate what ever they want. But when you step in front of a fuel truck your going to get run over. There is only so much you can legislate before the people wise up. Can you imagine the lower middle class having to choose between a tesla or life beyond the reach of their bicycle. Trapped in life by the good intensions of some out of touch social engineer? Can't happen.

Agree with Rick.

Also, do you believe that tractor trailers, railroad freight trains, airliners, and ships will be EVs in 20 years? If refineries are making diesel and jet fuel, they'll be making gasoline too.

There is much research being done to develop diesel engines for small airplanes. The reason is, diesel engines burn jet fuel quite nicely. Jet fuel is essentially kerosene. When oil was first refined it was to produce kerosene. Gasoline was (at the time) a useless by-product. Kerosene, (jet fuel) as a basic fuel will be able to power tractor trailers, railroad trains, airliners and ships. In other words just about all internal combustion engines. It is cheap to refine and even cheaper if you only need to refine one type of fuel. Water may also become an energy source. It's ironic that the elements of water when properly combined produce a tremendous amount of energy. Some people say that will never work. The same people say batteries will never be efficient to store enough electricity to drive an automobile. They are the same who told Orville and Wilbur it will never fly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Research is constant. So are the naysayers. I put my faith in research. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Skydance   Autonomous vehicles vs. 914   Dec 24 2015, 08:20 AM
stugray   Autonomous vehicles will render our old cars usel...   Dec 24 2015, 10:49 AM
Mike Bellis   In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in f...   Dec 24 2015, 11:43 AM
Elliot Cannon   In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in ...   Dec 24 2015, 11:50 AM
GregAmy   In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in...   Dec 28 2015, 02:17 PM
bandjoey   In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in ...   Dec 24 2015, 05:12 PM
stevegm   As John Forbes said to me yesterday - They will ha...   Dec 24 2015, 11:52 AM
RobW   As John Forbes said to me yesterday - They will h...   Dec 24 2015, 11:54 AM
RobW   I agree with Mike. It's inevitable that we wil...   Dec 24 2015, 11:53 AM
Mike Bellis   The Feds just signed some BS to reduce fossil fuel...   Dec 24 2015, 11:55 AM
Andyrew   E85 will be the temporary answer for another 5-10 ...   Dec 24 2015, 12:28 PM
Mueller   E85 will be the temporary answer for another 5-10...   Dec 28 2015, 02:23 PM
Andyrew   E85 will be the temporary answer for another 5-1...   Dec 28 2015, 03:20 PM
damesandhotrods   [quote name='Mueller' post='2282467' date='Dec 28...   Dec 28 2015, 08:57 PM
jmill   Wonder why produce prices have gone through the ro...   Dec 24 2015, 01:06 PM
damesandhotrods   So what happens if the insurance companies decide ...   Dec 24 2015, 02:18 PM
aircooledtechguy   So what happens if the insurance companies decide...   Dec 25 2015, 09:45 AM
damesandhotrods   So what happens if the insurance companies decid...   Dec 25 2015, 07:48 PM
somd914   So what happens if the insurance companies decide...   Dec 25 2015, 08:34 PM
wes   I agree with Steve and I'm digging a big hole ...   Dec 24 2015, 07:28 PM
914Sixer   Gee, they told us we were going run out of fossil ...   Dec 24 2015, 08:58 PM
rick 918-S   There will always be fuel. The government can mand...   Dec 25 2015, 07:50 AM
Big Len   There will always be fuel. The government can man...   Dec 25 2015, 09:41 AM
Elliot Cannon   There will always be fuel. The government can ma...   Dec 28 2015, 12:06 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='Big Len' post='2281475' date='Dec 25...   Dec 29 2015, 07:42 PM
76-914   The middle class will be gone long before oil. :(   Dec 25 2015, 09:33 AM
DirtyCossack   I don't think "running out of oil" i...   Dec 25 2015, 10:26 AM
rick 918-S   I don't think "running out of oil" ...   Dec 25 2015, 07:23 PM
DirtyCossack   It really is in our Nation Interest (security) to ...   Dec 25 2015, 10:34 AM
r_towle   Average MPG for a compact in the EU is well over 6...   Dec 26 2015, 09:13 AM
Andyrew   Average MPG for a compact in the EU is well over ...   Dec 28 2015, 11:25 AM
Mark Henry   Average MPG for a compact in the EU is well over...   Dec 28 2015, 08:10 PM
mbseto   Can't happen. Santayana would like a word w...   Dec 28 2015, 10:46 AM
Spoke   There is enough fossil fuels to last our lifetimes...   Dec 28 2015, 01:21 PM
steuspeed   Wait until your self driving car strictly follows ...   Dec 29 2015, 08:57 PM
damesandhotrods   Wait until your self driving car strictly follows...   Dec 30 2015, 01:08 AM
Spoke   Outside of 4wd off road vehicles what makes you s...   Dec 30 2015, 08:51 AM


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