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> New 914 owner looking to Build HP, New owner of a 914, looking to get a parts list going for an engine build
BimmermanJp
post Jan 30 2016, 10:09 AM
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Hi everyone! I'm proud to say that I will taking delivery of a good looking 914 this upcoming month and have been doing some research on getting more Hp out of the Type 4.
My 914 has a 1.7 so I'm looking to do a stroker to get around 150-180ish HP and I'd probably go with dual Carbs vs FI
I would love some advice on stroker kits/ cams and lifter suggestions to make this possible. I've seen Rabys kit, AA kits etc..., but I'm looking to do the build myself and send the case and heads to get machined. This would be my first engine build so I'm getting excited. I do have Shop experience working as a service tech.
Any tips and advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


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post Jan 30 2016, 10:59 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) JP

You don't say where in SoCal you're at, so here are some OC options & some out-of-state resources - then others can add in for LA, SD, IE, etc.

Talk to Ron at FAT Performsance in Orange OC, they've been building Type IV for race, Baja 500/1000 & street for decades, & he can give you a tour of his shop &

http://fatperformance.com/home/

http://fatperformance.com/home/?page_id=51

If you want to got further afield than SoCal.... or just for more info....

You can also contact McMark @ Original Customs - now back in Frostbite Falls (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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&/or Jake Raby - although I don't think he's building them anymore, but sells parts & kits -

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.php/porsche-914

Note that FAT/Ron has been at this much longer than either of the above, Mark uses Raby Parts & IIRC is the only one still doing the Raby 2056 Kit builds, & IIRC Raby worked for FAT &/or one of their machine shops to learn the trade.

If you're further south, then Bill Brewster in South OC & AASE in Fullerton are also top notch shops for T4 & 914s - & aircooled Porsches in general.

http://brewsterporsche.com/

http://aasemotors.com/

I also know some 914 vintage racers & VeeDubbers who've used Der Buggy in Garden Grove to build their T4 race engines.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/der-buggy-shop-garden-grove

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.... you may want to pull & prep for & long term store the original 1.7 complete with the D-Jet & related parts - if it's numbers matching the car, which looks to be in excellent & collectible condition, & buy a "solid" long block 2.0L GA motor to do the bore/stroke/carbed build you mention, since the crank area was already worked by Porsche to get to 2L in the first place. So the 2L can accept more cc's more easily.

Also consider Megasuirt or one of the other "modern" aftermarket EFI's out there instead of carbs - unless you just happen to enjoy re-jetting & balancing carbs etc. in your spare time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

T4's can & have been built to 270 hp as far as I know, but that high is a short lived, hot running race engine - 150-180 is more realistic, but still may run a bit hotter & may not be great in traffic/DD/commuting.

Ron & the others can explain the trade-offs of it all to you, & builds them to all specs - as do the others. Raby's website has some good informative write-ups & HP/TQ charts on the various size kits/engines he sells/does/did as a good place to start reading up.

PS - another option is to put Euro heads on a 2.0 GA (73-74 engine) & tweak the D-jet & MPS etc. to take the stock Euro from 100 HP to a bit more TBD by bench testing. Porsche was notoriously conservative in rating their engines, so they more often than not turned out more HP than advertised - smog control BS on the CA market cars aside, & the GA in USA/CA or Euro flavor was no exception, as would be some conservative builds. IIRC the 2056 with D-jet can go as high as 125 HP IIRC.

PSS - Also heed what Jeff & I are saying about saving the car - especially now that I read that you're caretaking the car for your nephew, since even the lowly 1.7's will eventually be worth top dollar in the future in really nice unmolested shape, ergo save the engine if it's the original & mess with another, then the original can always be swapped back - if you don't hack or do mods that can't be undone easily.

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Tom
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BimmermanJp   New 914 owner looking to Build HP   Jan 30 2016, 10:09 AM
green914   Looks like a nice car. :wttc:   Jan 30 2016, 10:15 AM
mrfourteen   Nice one. 180hp? I'm sure the gang will chime...   Jan 30 2016, 10:16 AM
BimmermanJp   Thanks! Well I'm shooting for around 150,...   Jan 30 2016, 10:47 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Don't do that to that beautiful 914.   Jan 30 2016, 10:49 AM
Cairo94507   Welcome to the madness. Seriously, before you com...   Jan 30 2016, 10:54 AM
BimmermanJp   Haha I need to! There a background story to th...   Jan 30 2016, 10:54 AM
BimmermanJp   Why FI over Carbs? Retaining the stock FI for valu...   Jan 30 2016, 10:56 AM
Tom_T   :wttc: JP You don't say where in SoCal you...   Jan 30 2016, 10:59 AM
colingreene   building a big power hot rod and "first build...   Jan 30 2016, 11:01 AM
Coondog   Nice looking 914. I would suggest you drive it for...   Jan 30 2016, 11:02 AM
BimmermanJp   I'm in Ventura County! Thanks for all the ...   Jan 30 2016, 11:04 AM
cwpeden   I'm in Ventura County! Thanks for all the...   Jan 30 2016, 12:33 PM
BimmermanJp   Ha well a good friend builds type 1 engines so he...   Jan 30 2016, 11:06 AM
Tom_T   And in terms of fixing the unknowns I'm alrea...   Jan 30 2016, 11:29 AM
r_towle   Contact European motor Werks in California. EMW fo...   Jan 30 2016, 11:07 AM
Cairo94507   I just believe that FI is maintenance free once it...   Jan 30 2016, 11:15 AM
r_towle   I just believe that FI is maintenance free once i...   Jan 30 2016, 11:23 AM
BimmermanJp   I'll contact EMW this week. I've read a li...   Jan 30 2016, 11:17 AM
BimmermanJp   if I wanted FI could I get that power? And I'm...   Jan 30 2016, 11:19 AM
SirAndy   McMark has a turbo on his 1.7L, rumor has it it dr...   Jan 30 2016, 11:43 AM
stugray   go with a carbed 2056. You will be happy and a str...   Jan 30 2016, 12:13 PM
BimmermanJp   Appreciate the advice, but I have someone who has ...   Jan 30 2016, 12:20 PM
BimmermanJp   So ideally I'd like to be at around 5K with as...   Jan 30 2016, 01:31 PM
jmill   if I wanted FI could I get that power? And I...   Jan 30 2016, 02:01 PM
Larmo63   Wait, you said you wanted to get 150 HP and you ar...   Jan 30 2016, 02:41 PM
r_towle   Stock 1.8 liter in the hands of a sixteen year old...   Jan 30 2016, 02:57 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I agree with rich and larmo. Turn the 1.7 into a 1...   Jan 30 2016, 03:33 PM
r_towle   Just tune up the 1.7... I did not read this was go...   Jan 30 2016, 03:38 PM
BimmermanJp   It's not going to be his car at 16, it'll ...   Jan 30 2016, 03:54 PM
r_towle   It's not going to be his car at 16, it'll...   Jan 30 2016, 06:56 PM
KELTY360   :wttc: It doesn't matter how much horsepower...   Jan 30 2016, 04:25 PM


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