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> New 914 owner looking to Build HP, New owner of a 914, looking to get a parts list going for an engine build
BimmermanJp
post Jan 30 2016, 10:09 AM
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Hi everyone! I'm proud to say that I will taking delivery of a good looking 914 this upcoming month and have been doing some research on getting more Hp out of the Type 4.
My 914 has a 1.7 so I'm looking to do a stroker to get around 150-180ish HP and I'd probably go with dual Carbs vs FI
I would love some advice on stroker kits/ cams and lifter suggestions to make this possible. I've seen Rabys kit, AA kits etc..., but I'm looking to do the build myself and send the case and heads to get machined. This would be my first engine build so I'm getting excited. I do have Shop experience working as a service tech.
Any tips and advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


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post Jan 30 2016, 11:07 AM
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Contact European motor Werks in California.
EMW for short.

They have the parts you want.
They have good advice.
They have a machine shop.

DRD makes the crankshafts.

type4store (Len Hoffman) heads are the only way you can get that kind of decent HP

Tangering racing (chris foley) for the tuned header which you will need if you want to make decent HP.

A common stroked setup makes a 2270, a motor Jake really likes.
A common big bore is using the 71 mm crank and 103 Pistons and cylinders.

You can also buy a built motor from FAT performance and others....no personal experience with that.

Elgin Camshafts, buy camshaft, gear and lifters from the same source, and go with a professional camshaft shop like Elgin to get a quality part.....versus a reseller of other people's Camshafts...Elgin will take care of you.
There are others as well that do a great job.

You will want a carbbed camshaft to produce the power you are seeking.
You need to make sure the heads breath and flow properly (Len)
His heads are tested, then replicated using CNc, so they are a lot more consistent then manually porting a head.

Ignition will be another thing you will want to upgrade to see that kind of performance.
Multi spark is a good choice and McMark (here) makes a trigger wheel setup that fits on the stock engine with stock cooling tin.

You will need a front mounted oil cooler, lots of good thread here on various setups for that.

There is a racing forum here that may have more information on the hot setups for Camshafts, timing, ignition, heads, headers etc.

Lastly, I would suggest you hunt down a core case and start with that.
Pull your stock motor and pickle it on the shelf. It may be valuable to the next buyer of your car.

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BimmermanJp   New 914 owner looking to Build HP   Jan 30 2016, 10:09 AM
green914   Looks like a nice car. :wttc:   Jan 30 2016, 10:15 AM
mrfourteen   Nice one. 180hp? I'm sure the gang will chime...   Jan 30 2016, 10:16 AM
BimmermanJp   Thanks! Well I'm shooting for around 150,...   Jan 30 2016, 10:47 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Don't do that to that beautiful 914.   Jan 30 2016, 10:49 AM
Cairo94507   Welcome to the madness. Seriously, before you com...   Jan 30 2016, 10:54 AM
BimmermanJp   Haha I need to! There a background story to th...   Jan 30 2016, 10:54 AM
BimmermanJp   Why FI over Carbs? Retaining the stock FI for valu...   Jan 30 2016, 10:56 AM
Tom_T   :wttc: JP You don't say where in SoCal you...   Jan 30 2016, 10:59 AM
colingreene   building a big power hot rod and "first build...   Jan 30 2016, 11:01 AM
Coondog   Nice looking 914. I would suggest you drive it for...   Jan 30 2016, 11:02 AM
BimmermanJp   I'm in Ventura County! Thanks for all the ...   Jan 30 2016, 11:04 AM
cwpeden   I'm in Ventura County! Thanks for all the...   Jan 30 2016, 12:33 PM
BimmermanJp   Ha well a good friend builds type 1 engines so he...   Jan 30 2016, 11:06 AM
Tom_T   And in terms of fixing the unknowns I'm alrea...   Jan 30 2016, 11:29 AM
r_towle   Contact European motor Werks in California. EMW fo...   Jan 30 2016, 11:07 AM
Cairo94507   I just believe that FI is maintenance free once it...   Jan 30 2016, 11:15 AM
r_towle   I just believe that FI is maintenance free once i...   Jan 30 2016, 11:23 AM
BimmermanJp   I'll contact EMW this week. I've read a li...   Jan 30 2016, 11:17 AM
BimmermanJp   if I wanted FI could I get that power? And I'm...   Jan 30 2016, 11:19 AM
SirAndy   McMark has a turbo on his 1.7L, rumor has it it dr...   Jan 30 2016, 11:43 AM
stugray   go with a carbed 2056. You will be happy and a str...   Jan 30 2016, 12:13 PM
BimmermanJp   Appreciate the advice, but I have someone who has ...   Jan 30 2016, 12:20 PM
BimmermanJp   So ideally I'd like to be at around 5K with as...   Jan 30 2016, 01:31 PM
jmill   if I wanted FI could I get that power? And I...   Jan 30 2016, 02:01 PM
Larmo63   Wait, you said you wanted to get 150 HP and you ar...   Jan 30 2016, 02:41 PM
r_towle   Stock 1.8 liter in the hands of a sixteen year old...   Jan 30 2016, 02:57 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I agree with rich and larmo. Turn the 1.7 into a 1...   Jan 30 2016, 03:33 PM
r_towle   Just tune up the 1.7... I did not read this was go...   Jan 30 2016, 03:38 PM
BimmermanJp   It's not going to be his car at 16, it'll ...   Jan 30 2016, 03:54 PM
r_towle   It's not going to be his car at 16, it'll...   Jan 30 2016, 06:56 PM
KELTY360   :wttc: It doesn't matter how much horsepower...   Jan 30 2016, 04:25 PM


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