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> Fake VIN number, 1970 needs one last number
pgollender
post Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
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My 1970 with a california re-assigned ID number is ready to go back on the road after nearly 5 years of restoration. When I bought the car it had a California re-assigned ID number because of a falsified VIN. About 10 years ago there was an investigation by a Fresno police officer that used a Fry's method of recovering the real VIN. His investigation was almost successful, he identified and recovered NINE out of TEN digits. So the car is one of 10 possible.
If the group can help by supplying any of the missing known numbers that would greatly enhance the chance of restoring the true ID number of my vechicle by process of elimination>
This is the partial number: 4702905_48. Anybody that has that third digit could respond. If I get lucky, REALLY lucky, I'll have 9 responses. Any help is appreciated.
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post Mar 31 2016, 12:58 PM
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Did he try the Frey method from top and underside....I saw a ground number you couldn't read from the top side but was easily read from underside .... it was a 76 retitled to a 72 in CA..
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post Apr 7 2016, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 31 2016, 11:58 AM) *

Did he try the Frey method from top and underside....I saw a ground number you couldn't read from the top side but was easily read from underside .... it was a 76 retitled to a 72 in CA..


From the original CHP report, he did NOT apply Fry's solution to the inside of the fender well.
I can feel the "embossing" on the inside of the fenderwell, and can see a partial number there. I tried to use tracing paper over the area to get a reverse image but there wasn't enough detail.
I think I might try something pliable like clay or playdough to see if I can get more detail. I can see plainly the reverse image of 470 xx0xx4x when I flash an ordinary flashlight back and forth.
If the playdough doesn't work, I think I will experiment with a magenta filter (filters out green = color of the car)and black or red laser lights to see if I can get more contrast to bring out the missing digits, especially #8.... THEN I will be in business. I just joined PCA so I can pursue Tom and Andy's recommendations, but if I can sleuth it out on my own before asking for the COA, I'll feel that I've done my best research and can get a CHP officer to re-verify and attest to any results that I can produce.

Ya''all know what I'm talking about here. It's no different than any other part of the restoration of our 914's. It's the pain, penance and pride of doing it yourself.
This weekend:
Firing up the rebuild and tuning it from the stand I fabricated:
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pgollender   Fake VIN number   Jan 17 2015, 08:50 AM
Gustl   sorry, but that's not a valid VIN :( it ha...   Jan 17 2015, 09:24 AM
Tom_T   :agree: So your Fresno officer's prior work ...   Jan 17 2015, 10:53 AM
pgollender   What it the "Fry's method" to whi...   Jan 17 2015, 04:38 PM
pgollender   Ok I found the chassis number stamped in the trunk...   Jan 17 2015, 05:52 PM
SirAndy   Assuming that the 09 are simply switched we get 4...   Jan 17 2015, 11:51 AM
pgollender   Assuming that the 09 are simply switched we get ...   Jan 17 2015, 04:18 PM
Gustl   IIRC, we could say, that your car was built on Mar...   Jan 18 2015, 12:46 AM
pgollender   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers m...   Jan 18 2015, 08:52 AM
Johny Blackstain   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers ...   Jan 18 2015, 10:49 AM
Tom_T   Did Karmann ever keep records of chassis numbers ...   Jan 18 2015, 03:12 PM
davep   I do not believe the chassis # was recorded with t...   Jan 18 2015, 08:08 PM
SirAndy   You guys are over-thinking the whole chassis numbe...   Jan 18 2015, 08:47 PM
Tom_T   Dave & Andy - I think he said his Karmann badg...   Jan 18 2015, 09:06 PM
pgollender   Thanks for your input everyone: the Karmann door j...   Jan 19 2015, 02:16 AM
Tom_T   Thanks for your input everyone: the Karmann door ...   Jan 19 2015, 12:48 PM
pgollender   Thanks Tom, I will contact PCNA today :type: O...   Jan 20 2015, 09:14 AM
dlkawashima   One more question: Lets say we do properly identi...   Jan 20 2015, 10:41 AM
Tom_T   Paul, You forgot the VIN plate on the right inner...   Jan 20 2015, 10:44 AM
pgollender   Back to chassis numbers: First two digits are wee...   Jan 20 2015, 11:01 AM
Tom_T   Back to chassis numbers: First two digits are we...   Jan 20 2015, 11:58 AM
SirAndy   Remember, this was Europe with long standing trade...   Jan 20 2015, 12:41 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2136354' date='Jan 20 2...   Jan 20 2015, 01:29 PM
SirAndy   I think that's why that other Orange/Black ear...   Jan 20 2015, 01:43 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2136382' date='Jan 20 2...   Jan 20 2015, 01:59 PM
pgollender   I didn't think there was a 1 to 1 relationship...   Jan 20 2015, 04:01 PM
SirAndy   I didn't think there was a 1 to 1 relationshi...   Jan 20 2015, 07:05 PM
Tom_T   Also Paul, The same thing was happening with all ...   Jan 20 2015, 08:32 PM
pgollender   Back at the chassis number. I see that a Scott Ros...   Mar 21 2016, 12:11 PM
Tom_T   Back at the chassis number. I see that a Scott Ro...   Mar 21 2016, 01:05 PM
Cairo94507   Did I miss it or did you call PCNA and check out t...   Mar 24 2016, 08:32 AM
sixnotfour   Did he try the Frey method from top and underside....   Mar 31 2016, 12:58 PM
pgollender   Did he try the Frey method from top and underside...   Apr 7 2016, 01:35 AM
pgollender   After a long slow process of contacting PCNA and s...   May 3 2016, 02:59 PM
sixnotfour   Good Job ...   May 5 2016, 01:57 PM
PancakePorsche   Shirlock Holmes aint got nothing on you man !   May 6 2016, 10:05 PM
pgollender   Reunited and it feels so good !! (It feels...   Sep 15 2016, 08:57 AM
bretth   This info is too late but doesn't all 914s hav...   Sep 15 2016, 01:10 PM
pgollender   This info is too late but doesn't all 914s ha...   Sep 15 2016, 09:24 PM
mepstein   Congrats :trophy:   Sep 16 2016, 04:45 AM
pgollender   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal ...   Sep 29 2016, 08:26 AM
Tom_T   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal...   Sep 29 2016, 11:22 AM
dlkawashima   Ok, I am nearly ready to order a compliance decal...   Sep 29 2016, 09:19 PM


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