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> Roll Bar in a street car discussion
Scott S
post Apr 14 2016, 10:21 AM
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Hi All. I posted this over on Pelican, thought it might be relevant here too.

I know there have been many discussions on the safety putting a roll bar/cage in a street driven car. I am not a racer, so it really didn't pertain to me at all. However, yesterday I saw first hand the injuries that can occur.

16 year old girl driving her dads Miata with him in the passenger seat. There is speculation that she was driving on her permit, practicing for her drivers license. She was driving at a slow speed, simply making a right hand turn on to a side street. She clipped the curb - something we all have done. Curb was tall enough that it shook the car pretty good (again, speculation, but knowing the corner I would guess a wheel would have been bent and the car knocked out of alignment ).

Both are in the hospital with concussions, one of them needed several stiches from injuries caused by their heads impacting the roll bar.

I don't know if the dad autocrossed the car or what, or if the bar was just for looks. I do know the car had stock seat belts.

Scary stuff.
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jeff
post Apr 16 2016, 10:29 AM
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At least everyone is enthusiastic about this discussion, really there's no easy answer to weather to cage or not on the street.. Personal preferance really, I've been a Firefighter/Parameddic for 20+ years now and I really wish I could forget about some of the things I've seen and had to work on,accidents never come out like you'd expect, I've had Honda car vs suburban where the Honda rolled the suburban over and killed the driver, I could go on and on with stories... I'll say I'd rather go with a well built padded cage than nothing in an old car like a 914.. The new cars full of air bags are much better now....
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Scott S   Roll Bar in a street car discussion   Apr 14 2016, 10:21 AM
ThePaintedMan   I drive my car as little on the street as possib...   Apr 14 2016, 11:12 AM
brant   sad story... I hope there is no further medical co...   Apr 14 2016, 11:29 AM
SirAndy   Proper padding and non-retractable seat belts are ...   Apr 14 2016, 11:48 AM
jasons   Proper padding and non-retractable seat belts are...   Apr 14 2016, 02:26 PM
SirAndy   Proper padding and non-retractable seat belts are ...   Apr 14 2016, 02:34 PM
jasons   Wut? With proper padding, a rollbar is not more...   Apr 14 2016, 02:52 PM
DBCooper   The rollbar in my 914 is no closer to my head tha...   Apr 14 2016, 10:16 PM
SirAndy   You sure about that? Yes, i am. Last time i check...   Apr 15 2016, 11:14 AM
DBCooper   You sure about that? Yes, i am. Last time i chec...   Apr 15 2016, 11:19 AM
stugray   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2331023' date='Apr 15...   Apr 15 2016, 11:29 AM
SirAndy   He is SAYING that the metal that is NOW in his 914...   Apr 15 2016, 01:40 PM
r_towle   He is SAYING that the metal that is NOW in his 91...   Apr 15 2016, 02:51 PM
DBCooper   He is SAYING that the metal that is NOW in his 91...   Apr 15 2016, 03:27 PM
SirAndy   He is SAYING that the metal that is NOW in his 914...   Apr 15 2016, 03:33 PM
stugray   That's totally irrelevant. The comparison is...   Apr 15 2016, 06:11 PM
Larmo63   :agree: ^^^That^^^   Apr 14 2016, 12:25 PM
RobW   A bar needs to be padded and ideally not within he...   Apr 14 2016, 06:39 PM
Elliot Cannon   Reasons to have a roll bar/cage in your street car...   Apr 14 2016, 11:15 PM
Garland   I remember going down hill tobogganing (holds 4) a...   Apr 14 2016, 11:51 PM
wes   I can't wait to see a guy driving down the str...   Apr 15 2016, 12:20 AM
RobW   I can't wait to see a guy driving down the st...   Apr 15 2016, 06:34 AM
Geezer914   If you are going to do all the work to put in a ro...   Apr 15 2016, 05:51 AM
DBCooper   But I never said that, Andy. Did you read the fir...   Apr 15 2016, 05:58 PM
SirAndy   But I never said that, Andy. Did you read the fir...   Apr 15 2016, 07:36 PM
DBCooper   But that wasn't in a 914 and we don't kno...   Apr 15 2016, 08:38 PM
SirAndy   What i am telling you is that in my car my head i...   Apr 15 2016, 10:46 PM
DBCooper   Why did my 914 become less safe when the distance...   Apr 16 2016, 10:07 AM
stugray   Not really. Without a roll bar there was nothing...   Apr 16 2016, 10:20 AM
RobW   :beer3: :beer3: :beer3:   Apr 15 2016, 07:48 PM
Elliot Cannon   This has been a very educational thread. I just w...   Apr 15 2016, 07:51 PM
SirAndy   This has been a very educational thread. I just w...   Apr 15 2016, 07:56 PM
VegasRacer   This has been a very educational thread. I just ...   Apr 15 2016, 09:53 PM
Elliot Cannon   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2331305' date='Apr 15...   Apr 16 2016, 07:06 AM
Elliot Cannon   This has been a very educational thread. I just ...   Apr 16 2016, 07:02 AM
r_towle   Color glossy photos with measurements would have b...   Apr 15 2016, 08:19 PM
Garland   I Would think hitting a roll bar. with your head i...   Apr 15 2016, 11:25 PM
mgp4591   If your head hits metal at speed, any metal, it...   Apr 16 2016, 01:25 AM
sixnotfour   factory 959 :beer3:   Apr 16 2016, 04:59 AM
Cracker   Its certainly nothing to do flippantly. I rebuilt ...   Apr 16 2016, 06:05 AM
jd74914   I see allot of Miatas with roll bars (I believe t...   Apr 16 2016, 09:10 AM
campbellcj   I occasionally take my car on public roads with th...   Apr 16 2016, 09:20 AM
Steve   :deadhorse: This has been brought up many times b...   Apr 16 2016, 09:42 AM
sixnotfour   The End They wonder the same thing Miata guys th...   Apr 16 2016, 10:28 AM
jeff   At least everyone is enthusiastic about this discu...   Apr 16 2016, 10:29 AM


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