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ash00
post May 2 2016, 12:15 PM
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Hi All,

After a month and a half of business trips, I finally got to drive my the 1970 914 that I'm still learning about.

One thing is clear, that the restoration was half-assed, and rather than blaming the PO, I have to figure things out the hard way. Hopefully before the fact. I'm trying to not let this leave a bad taste in my mouth of the 914 experience.

The recent issue is overheating. This is my first car in the aircooled world, and the car was equipped with a rebuilt 2.0L with the weber downdraft setup in place of the FI. It runs well when warmed up, but during driving, I can't drive it for more than 10 minutes without the gauge being pegged to the red. I'm hearing things of "false air" and such.

Pardon my ignorance, but I need a place to start looking for info. Is there any documentation or info out there on how the air cooling is managed, and what hardware is there for me to test / check? Any tips are appreciated.

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Ash
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post May 2 2016, 01:18 PM
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Hey Ash,

You might want to check the gauge for accuracy first, then make sure there's no mouse nests/ obstructions in the cooling fins and that the flaps are operating properly. Also, that the oil cooler has air flow.

I have a kitchen thermometer with a long probe; something like that might be able to tell you how hot your oil is by putting it down the dipstick tube.

If you're over say, 220-230, then there's other issues at stake.

Good luck.
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post May 2 2016, 01:29 PM
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Great Idea. i have a fluke with a TC. I'll try that out. I'll first check at startup, idle for a few minutes, then driving for a bit and seeing what it is at halfway, then 3/4 then at red.
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ash00   Overheating   May 2 2016, 12:15 PM
Porschef   :wttc: Hey Ash, You might want to check the g...   May 2 2016, 01:18 PM
ash00   Great Idea. i have a fluke with a TC. I'll t...   May 2 2016, 01:29 PM
injunmort   after checking what joe suggested, i would first c...   May 2 2016, 01:35 PM
ash00   Definitely. What should timing be set at?   May 2 2016, 01:37 PM
injunmort   34 degreess btdc fully advanced. good tech articl...   May 2 2016, 01:44 PM
SirAndy   Also make sure your cooling flaps are installed an...   May 2 2016, 02:25 PM
Elliot Cannon   Also make sure your cooling flaps are installed a...   May 3 2016, 05:18 PM
r_towle   Also make sure your cooling flaps are installed ...   May 3 2016, 05:22 PM
boxsterfan   Also make sure your cooling flaps are installed ...   May 4 2016, 09:55 AM
injunmort   i had a rebuilt engine in my dd that had the flaps...   May 2 2016, 02:28 PM
brant   top of my head.... I thought factory timing was s...   May 2 2016, 02:59 PM
injunmort   i think 27 degrees is for stock distributor advanc...   May 2 2016, 03:16 PM
era vulgaris   Since this is your first air cooled car, let me as...   May 2 2016, 03:33 PM
ash00   I appreciate all the help guys! Looks like I...   May 3 2016, 11:34 AM
SirAndy   I have to find what the flaps look like and see i...   May 3 2016, 11:58 AM
ash00   I'm going to check this valve as well. I gu...   May 4 2016, 12:14 PM
era vulgaris   You won't be able to see the actual flaps as t...   May 3 2016, 12:09 PM
ash00   Awesome- that helps. I assume that the flaps are ...   May 3 2016, 02:23 PM
Racer Chris   Awesome- that helps. I assume that the flaps are...   May 3 2016, 02:37 PM
ash00   Well, I had a chance to head to the shop and check...   May 4 2016, 10:23 AM
SirAndy   Well, I had a chance to head to the shop and check...   May 4 2016, 11:14 AM
era vulgaris   Well, I had a chance to head to the shop and chec...   May 4 2016, 11:14 AM
era vulgaris   Awesome- that helps. I assume that the flaps are...   May 3 2016, 04:41 PM
era vulgaris   more   May 4 2016, 11:17 AM
era vulgaris   And this is the thermostatic bellows that controls...   May 4 2016, 11:20 AM
ash00   Wow, thanks for the great photos! I'm lovi...   May 4 2016, 11:33 AM
ash00   Well, the news gets better. I just texted the PO...   May 4 2016, 11:45 AM
era vulgaris   I just texted the PO: "as far as I could ...   May 4 2016, 03:55 PM
ash00   First off, thanks you all for all the help. Its a...   May 4 2016, 04:05 PM
SirAndy   The PO was a vintage car racer That explains a lot...   May 4 2016, 04:10 PM
stugray   It Might still be that none of your oil is getting...   May 4 2016, 12:00 PM
r_towle   If you removed the thermostat, the flaps fall into...   May 4 2016, 03:43 PM
stugray   If you had a $13 USB Endoscope you could look...   May 4 2016, 04:43 PM
ash00   Here are some quick pics that hopefully will he...   May 4 2016, 06:12 PM
r_towle   Well, it looks like you do not have the flappers a...   May 4 2016, 06:39 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Not the easiest job, but the upper cylinders tin w...   May 4 2016, 07:10 PM
ash00   Looks like I need to go into the classifieds and l...   May 5 2016, 08:28 AM
stugray   Looks like I need to go into the classifieds and ...   May 5 2016, 11:16 AM
rhodyguy   1.7 1.8 2.0, the same thermo assem. I've never...   May 5 2016, 09:06 AM
era vulgaris   I've never seen a BB plumbed in that fashion....   May 5 2016, 09:34 AM
ash00   Exactly! I thought the whole point of venting...   May 5 2016, 10:27 AM
SirAndy   How is it breathing without some way to vent? The ...   May 5 2016, 12:13 PM
ash00   Wow- you guys are incredible! I love how supp...   May 5 2016, 12:21 PM
ash00   I have to take a look at the wiring in detail also...   May 5 2016, 12:23 PM
SirAndy   I have to take a look at the wiring in detail also...   May 5 2016, 12:36 PM
ash00   Silly question - I have a full machine shop / wel...   May 5 2016, 02:07 PM
rhodyguy   The foam element in the BB traps the vapors. Oil p...   May 5 2016, 10:35 AM
ClayPerrine   I have lots of sets of cooling flaps for your moto...   May 5 2016, 10:41 AM
Cracker   Man. You AC guys make it so complicated... :blink...   May 5 2016, 12:21 PM
rhodyguy   That is the best way to power your carb pump. The ...   May 5 2016, 02:06 PM
rhodyguy   Get a furniture dolly at Home Depot or the like. B...   May 5 2016, 02:11 PM
Racer Chris   Engine Lift Plate   May 5 2016, 02:25 PM
ash00   HI all, Maybe I'm missing something here, but...   May 6 2016, 04:53 PM
stugray   HI all, Maybe I'm missing something here, bu...   May 6 2016, 05:11 PM
era vulgaris   I think he's just talking about the two main t...   May 6 2016, 05:33 PM
ash00   Yes, sorry for the confusion..just for the tins a...   May 6 2016, 05:45 PM
SirAndy   I don't know if you can just put them in there...   May 6 2016, 06:16 PM
stugray   Yes, sorry for the confusion..just for the tins ...   May 6 2016, 06:46 PM
Porschef   Ash, I'm gonna have to :agree: with all who...   May 7 2016, 08:08 AM
ash00   Totally! I had about a half hour yesterday to ...   May 7 2016, 09:54 AM


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