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> Problems With PMB Performance, Anyone Else?
mercury26
post May 11 2016, 12:33 AM
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I sent my calipers in last October 2015 and received a confirmation that they were received shortly after they were sent. I was sent an invoice but was told not to pay until they were ready to ship. I sent an email on 2/1/16 to inquire on the status and received an email the next day that they were almost done. I then emailed on 2/17/16 to see if they were complete, since then I emailed on 2/26, 4/12, 5/9 and 5/11 with no response back. I have also left numerous voicemails with no call back. At this point, I would just like my calipers back regardless if they have been completed or not. I had used PMB before with good results, it is too bad that they are not being at all responsive. Also, they must have lots going on at the shop since they have Facebook and Twitter posts every other day on all the activities going on.

Any one else having similar problems? Another person posted on Facebook and Google about the same issue. Both of our posts were deleted from their Facebook page, so they are reading and monitoring what is going on.

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scotty b
post May 11 2016, 11:58 AM
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I'm going to try my best to stay out of this, but feel there are a few things to say in defense of those of us on the other end. Eric can address this specific issue if he feels

I will also say upfront Eric is a good friend of mine, and gets all of my brake and suspension work/purchases, so I probably have a lot more experience dealing with him than most

Perspective :

How many other companies out there do what Eric does ( truly restore vs simple rebuild ) ?

I know of ZERO

How many Porsche's, Ferrari's, Alfa's, BMW's Jag's are out in the world being restored right now that need the brakes done properly ?

10's of thousands + ????

How many of those go to PMB ?

When dealing with a niche market, ( in this case being one of, if not the only one providing a service ), you will get overwhelmed with work extremely quickly once the word gets out. Mistakes happen, phone calls, emails etc get missed or forgotten about. I tell every one of my customers that if you call, text or email me and don't hear back in 2-3 days, hit me again. I may go for a week without checking emails. I see phone calls and texts while working and forget about them by the end of the day.

As far as " why don't you just hire someone " statements....I wonder how many of you making that blanket statement have ever had a small business in a very specialized market ?? Just "hiring someone", tends to end up with bigger issues in the long run ( see the complaints about quality control ) You as the owner of a growing business have to put faith and trust into employees because you CAN NOT fully inspect every single item that goes out and get your work done. As a formerly 3 person business, if I took the time to completely go over my employees work on every car, I might as well have been doing the job myself. I have had to re-do so much work from my last 2 full time employees it has made me decide to go back to working by myself on fewer cars unless someone magical comes along.

If you want to provide a top notch, specialized product, you can't hire the average Joe looking for a job on Craigslist. I speak on all of this from a LOT of personal experience.


Now take all that, and factor in the traveling to shows to promote the business, taking care of employees F-ups ( I've got several stories I can get into there ) dealing with vendors you sub work out to, the phone calls, text messages, emails, parts chasing, paperwork, taxes, bills etc etc etc. and THEN trying to maintain a life out side of work etc.

On Michael's ( Cairo's ) car we have been plagued by delay's from EVERYONE I have outsourced work to because they are some of the best in the business I know. We had some serious issues with a chrome shop I have used before with stellar results, but in this case they botched his stuff up. I have had my own delay's that he and my other customers know of, but I haven't spoken on in public ( because quite frankly it isn't the general publics business )

Going from a garage startup to where we are now, pretty much any small business will experience " growing pains " which is not only a headache for the business owner, but also a headache for customers during those times of change. I have changed my business practices once already, and am in the process right now of changing it once again to better suit the work I now have coming in.

In the end, when you want specialty work done in a limited market, there will be delays because the vendors in that realm are few and far between, are typically swamped with work ( because there are so few ), and they too try to maintain a life outside of the shop/office that the rest of you do.

Your question has been asked and answered, ( particularly by one member who is well known to still hold a grudge ) Eric no doubt has seen this. IMHO your reason for going public may be very valid as I don't know the whole story, and he now knows it is out there in everyone's face. Maybe you should grant Eric the respect of letting this thread die out until you two have a chance to get the issue resolved

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mercury26   Problems With PMB Performance, Anyone Else?   May 11 2016, 12:33 AM
porschetub   I sent my calipers in last October 2015 and recei...   May 11 2016, 03:58 AM
87m491   OP join date looks to be 5 years ago? Interesting...   May 11 2016, 06:11 AM
mb911   I just spoke with Eric on Monday.. They are swampe...   May 11 2016, 05:07 AM
Cevan   Sound like he's been trying to handle it perso...   May 11 2016, 05:07 AM
two914-6s   Eric from PMB was a nightmare and still owes me mo...   May 11 2016, 06:28 AM
6freak   Eric from PMB was a nightmare and still owes me m...   May 11 2016, 10:17 AM
Cairo94507   Wow I am completely shocked by this. Eric has bee...   May 11 2016, 06:44 AM
stugray   Wow I am completely shocked by this. Eric has be...   May 11 2016, 09:48 AM
bulitt   Wow I am completely shocked by this. Eric has be...   May 11 2016, 09:51 AM
76-914   The only problem I've had with Eric was when h...   May 11 2016, 07:07 AM
JRust   Eric is good people & does a lot for our commu...   May 11 2016, 07:42 AM
Cracker   Whats the old saying? "Its a mighty thin panc...   May 11 2016, 07:51 AM
Coondog   Always two sides to every story. Hopefully the OPs...   May 11 2016, 07:43 AM
mercury26   Over the last 3 1/2 months, I have called close to...   May 11 2016, 09:01 AM
396   I have no skin on this, but if I went through all ...   May 11 2016, 09:12 AM
SA-914   I ordered parts from them yesterday...waiting to s...   May 11 2016, 09:54 AM
rhodyguy   Almost 8 months ( :WTF: ) is far too long without ...   May 11 2016, 09:55 AM
wes   Very sad to hear this as I have had a great experi...   May 11 2016, 10:15 AM
rhodyguy   Knew that one was coming.   May 11 2016, 10:19 AM
6freak   Knew that one was coming. :D Im slowly getting ...   May 11 2016, 12:20 PM
rgalla9146   Knew that one was coming. :D Im slowly getting...   May 11 2016, 04:35 PM
arsprod   I was planning to order calipers and pads from PMB...   May 11 2016, 10:35 AM
Amphicar770   My guess is that the volume of work coming in has ...   May 11 2016, 10:54 AM
Chris Pincetich   +1 for PMB SUPPORT! :beer2: :headbanger: :tr...   May 11 2016, 11:06 AM
mercury26   Quick update, Eric gave me a call today and we dis...   May 11 2016, 11:16 AM
MDG   Quick update, Eric gave me a call today and we di...   May 11 2016, 02:53 PM
veekry9   Nah. I put my time and dough into the hands of a v...   May 11 2016, 11:43 AM
scotty b   I'm going to try my best to stay out of this, ...   May 11 2016, 11:58 AM
veekry9   It's tough work,but someone has to do it,custo...   May 11 2016, 12:18 PM
rhodyguy   The silence is deafening. I have my story too but ...   May 11 2016, 12:21 PM
Mikey914   The character of the the owner (Eric) is well inte...   May 11 2016, 12:46 PM
Chris Pincetich   Quick update, Eric gave me a call today and we di...   May 11 2016, 01:29 PM
396   :deadhorse:   May 11 2016, 01:30 PM
DavidSweden   He was good to me, Eric took the time to ship some...   May 11 2016, 01:53 PM
Series9   I'll tell you right now: Eric Shea is a frien...   May 11 2016, 02:18 PM
6freak   I'll tell you right now: Eric Shea is a frie...   May 11 2016, 03:14 PM
Eric_Shea   [quote name='Series9' post='2343227' date='May 11...   May 11 2016, 03:35 PM
messix   [quote name='6freak' post='2343246' date='May 11 ...   May 11 2016, 06:37 PM
6freak   bad cop???? :lol4: I know right ! anythin...   May 11 2016, 06:51 PM
6freak   [quote name='Series9' post='2343227' date='May 1...   May 11 2016, 06:41 PM
JRust   if you were standing in front of me I would kick...   May 11 2016, 11:41 PM
ConeDodger   if you were standing in front of me I would kic...   May 11 2016, 11:57 PM
6freak   [quote name='JRust' post='2343528' date='May 12 2...   May 12 2016, 10:06 AM
dpires914   "Let's be clear... you e-mailed and asked...   May 11 2016, 08:09 PM
DBCooper   Anyway, if you want to get rebuilt caliper for a b...   May 11 2016, 08:22 PM
mgp4591   As opposed to Atlanta Georgia Ukraine? :confused:...   May 11 2016, 10:53 PM
rick 918-S   I'll tell you right now: Eric Shea is a frie...   May 11 2016, 03:37 PM
jfort   Eric did my rear calipers a couple of years ago. Q...   May 11 2016, 02:34 PM
LowBridge   I joined the 914world community back in August 201...   May 11 2016, 02:34 PM
Eric_Shea   Friends, Chuck's a very gracious and good (re...   May 11 2016, 03:15 PM
Java2570   Friends, Chuck's a very gracious and good (r...   May 11 2016, 06:14 PM
billh1963   Thank you for the update! Now that we know yo...   May 11 2016, 03:27 PM
mb911   I can only offer a small perspective on this.. Aft...   May 11 2016, 04:14 PM
Scott S   I am not getting this.... I have been lucky enoug...   May 11 2016, 04:39 PM
396   Again, :deadhorse: :deadhorse:   May 11 2016, 04:48 PM
DBCooper   Again, :deadhorse: :deadhorse: Friend, what o...   May 11 2016, 05:19 PM
396   Again, :deadhorse: :deadhorse: Friend, what ...   May 11 2016, 05:34 PM
yerpants   When I ordered from Eric the order was complete. ...   May 11 2016, 05:20 PM
ThePaintedMan   I've waited to chime in, because I knew at lea...   May 11 2016, 05:27 PM
Rand   Not sure where all the miscommunication comes in. ...   May 11 2016, 05:33 PM
ConeDodger   I have never understood how Eric can be so funny l...   May 11 2016, 05:47 PM
mepstein   Yea, let's get rid of Eric. Then we'll get...   May 11 2016, 05:54 PM
timothy_nd28   Finkle Einhorn laces out!   May 11 2016, 06:54 PM
veekry9   The playing field was in the barnyard and both tea...   May 11 2016, 07:09 PM
messix   The playing field was in the barnyard and both te...   May 11 2016, 07:13 PM
r_towle   In my opinion Eric is one of the successful compan...   May 11 2016, 08:01 PM
scotty b   he sent me a mangled sticker !! :angry:   May 11 2016, 08:21 PM
sixnotfour   :popcorn:   May 11 2016, 09:45 PM
pete000   I have used PMB a few times with no problems..   May 11 2016, 11:12 PM
boxsterfan   Clearly, we need a solution to our problems here. ...   May 12 2016, 12:01 AM
Blue6   Eric, I'm very sorry about the loss of your fa...   May 12 2016, 12:20 AM
cuddyk   Sorry for your loss, Eric. My dad passed two years...   May 12 2016, 07:51 AM
Amphicar770   Eric, Truly sorry to hear about your loss. It re...   May 12 2016, 07:59 AM
Catorse   I spent 60K on my 914 6 conversion / restoration. ...   May 12 2016, 09:43 AM
Chris H.   Alright....   May 12 2016, 10:21 AM
914_3.0   When I was trying to figure out what kind of crazy...   May 12 2016, 10:38 AM
6freak   representative from law enforcement, ITS THE COP...   May 12 2016, 03:17 PM
mepstein   The amount of money I've spent at PMB, I must ...   May 12 2016, 10:46 AM
veekry9   In today's age,the advantages of the boom in c...   May 12 2016, 10:49 AM
rhodyguy   Ok...who hijacked mike's account. That can...   May 12 2016, 11:02 AM
wndsnd   I trust my life to PMB Products and before I purch...   May 12 2016, 01:47 PM
6freak   I need to take back the end of my last post..sayin...   May 12 2016, 03:09 PM
jim_hoyland   Always had a positive experience with PMB; got a l...   May 12 2016, 04:48 PM
Cuda911   Here's something ironic.... This is the first...   May 13 2016, 01:59 AM
Mikey914   Happy birthday Eric   May 13 2016, 02:32 PM
rgalla9146   Happy Birthday Eric ! You shifty eyed bast...   May 13 2016, 02:49 PM
worn   Happy Birthday Eric ! You shifty eyed bas...   May 14 2016, 12:55 PM
pgollender   Eric did some great work on my calipers too in the...   May 13 2016, 03:11 PM
porbmw   I have glanced through this thread, didn't wis...   May 14 2016, 11:37 AM


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