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> Exhaust manifold studs?, Now what
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post Jun 5 2016, 03:13 PM
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Pulling tranny.decided to change out heat exchangers while at it.
Fou;ld lots of black soot,so leaking pretty bad.

The problem is when I was pulling off the passenger side 3 of the studs came out.

What should I do.??.
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post Jun 9 2016, 11:00 AM
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Some tips on exhaust.

* You don't need to file both pipes at once. They flex a lot. Just make sure each one is filed flat on its own.

* Use a tiny amount of copper antisieze to stick the copper rings into the head during installation. Keeping those bugger in place is a pain sometimes.

* When installing the pipes, it's not uncommon for the pipe edge to catch on the head slightly. Use a flashlight to spend a lot of time looking around the pipe. You should be able to see a small amount of copper around the pipe when it's installed. You can carefully pry the pipe into place with a screwdriver if it's stubborn.

* Stainless steel headers are the most difficult to line up.

* Don't tighten any of the nuts all the way first. You will get the pipe cocked a bit and it won't seal. Run all four nuts on part way, and then just go around and around tightening a little bit at a time. The best is to use a torque wrench set to a very low number. That way if one nut starts getting tight before the others you can skip it until the other nuts match torque.

* Use a 1/4" drive ratchet. You don't need any more leverage than that and it makes it much harder to over tighten the nuts. You don't need to tighten these hard to make them seal.

* You'll need to go back and retighten the nuts after a little run time.

That's it off the top of my head.
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post Jun 9 2016, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 9 2016, 01:00 PM) *

Some tips on exhaust.

* You don't need to file both pipes at once. They flex a lot. Just make sure each one is filed flat on its own.

* Use a tiny amount of copper antisieze to stick the copper rings into the head during installation. Keeping those bugger in place is a pain sometimes.

* When installing the pipes, it's not uncommon for the pipe edge to catch on the head slightly. Use a flashlight to spend a lot of time looking around the pipe. You should be able to see a small amount of copper around the pipe when it's installed. You can carefully pry the pipe into place with a screwdriver if it's stubborn.

* Stainless steel headers are the most difficult to line up.

* Don't tighten any of the nuts all the way first. You will get the pipe cocked a bit and it won't seal. Run all four nuts on part way, and then just go around and around tightening a little bit at a time. The best is to use a torque wrench set to a very low number. That way if one nut starts getting tight before the others you can skip it until the other nuts match torque.

* Use a 1/4" drive ratchet. You don't need any more leverage than that and it makes it much harder to over tighten the nuts. You don't need to tighten these hard to make them seal.

* You'll need to go back and retighten the nuts after a little run time.

That's it off the top of my head.

Follow Mark's advice. That's what I did the first time, and it made an otherwise unpleasant (and somewhat risky) effort easier and more successful. One other tip that Mark or someone else suggested: yes, use the 1/4" ratchet and a flexible extension can be helpful too.
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catsltd   Exhaust manifold studs?   Jun 5 2016, 03:13 PM
catsltd   Should I order new Bolts.??? Old nuts are siezed ...   Jun 5 2016, 03:46 PM
dlee6204   If the threads in the head are not damaged then si...   Jun 5 2016, 03:47 PM
injunmort   from the looks of things, your threads are fine. y...   Jun 5 2016, 05:16 PM
catsltd   from the looks of things, your threads are fine. ...   Jun 5 2016, 06:00 PM
jmitro   you can get new studs at flaps, dorfman for ford ...   Mar 8 2020, 07:14 PM
rhodyguy   You dodged 3 bullets. Congratulations.   Jun 5 2016, 06:58 PM
catsltd   You dodged 3 bullets. Congratulations. I kind of...   Jun 5 2016, 07:13 PM
r_towle   Lock tight won't hold up in the heads, and you...   Jun 5 2016, 07:01 PM
catsltd   Help. The exhaust leaks were massive,mainly becaus...   Jun 9 2016, 09:55 AM
BeatNavy   I'm not aware of copper nut issues - I've ...   Jun 9 2016, 10:22 AM
catsltd   I'm not aware of copper nut issues - I've...   Jun 9 2016, 10:49 AM
worn   I'm not aware of copper nut issues - I'v...   Jun 9 2016, 11:23 AM
Bartlett 914   [quote name='catsltd' post='2356974' date='Jun 9 ...   Mar 9 2020, 08:53 AM
The Cabinetmaker   Large coarse file. 16" or better. File both t...   Jun 9 2016, 10:42 AM
dlee6204   I use these... http://vwparts.aircooled.net/ACN-F...   Jun 9 2016, 10:44 AM
McMark   Some tips on exhaust. * You don't need to fil...   Jun 9 2016, 11:00 AM
BeatNavy   Some tips on exhaust. * You don't need to fi...   Jun 9 2016, 11:21 AM
rhodyguy   Jake's method of painting the nut threads with...   Jun 9 2016, 11:05 AM
MarkV   I had really bad luck with the copper nuts that ar...   Jun 9 2016, 11:22 AM
rhodyguy   Marking the top of the pipes with a black sharpie ...   Jun 9 2016, 11:33 AM
Mark Henry   If the studs are backing out the threads are strip...   Jun 9 2016, 11:35 AM
catsltd   If the studs are backing out the threads are stri...   Jun 9 2016, 04:03 PM
dlee6204   [quote name='catsltd' post='2356974' date='Jun 9 ...   Jun 9 2016, 12:06 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I must disagree Mark. Filing them one at a time le...   Jun 9 2016, 12:09 PM
McMark   Forgot about the annealing. YES! And quenche...   Jun 9 2016, 04:51 PM
rjames   May have been said in a previous post but don’t ...   Mar 8 2020, 08:26 PM
g911   So is there a torque spec for the stud going into ...   Oct 24 2021, 02:55 PM
rjames   So is there a torque spec for the stud going into...   Oct 24 2021, 04:36 PM
914werke   If the studs are backing out, the threads are str...   Oct 24 2021, 05:37 PM


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