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post Jun 20 2016, 01:33 PM
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Coming from the BMW world (and 4x100 ) where there are a ton of made in china replica wheels of the original quality, I always stay away from anything thats not authentic. I feel the same is the thought with these, but I was hoping to hear some actual experience with these... you never know?

Im mostly concerned with 2 things.
#1 Quality? The BBS reps were crap and could be easily spotted
#2 Weight? They are notoriously heavy wheels and besides the look of the Fuchs wheels they are also pretty light from what Ive seen.

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Don't do it, not if you drive hard.


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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Jun 21 2016, 06:58 PM) *

Don't do it, not if you drive hard.


Wow! I have heard of that happening. Would the euromeister wheels be OK for a street set of wheels? I haven't heard anything bad on those.

The Rota Fox's also seem like a good choice if you like 17's.
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QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Jun 22 2016, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Jun 21 2016, 06:58 PM) *

Don't do it, not if you drive hard.


Wow! I have heard of that happening. Would the euromeister wheels be OK for a street set of wheels? I haven't heard anything bad on those.

The Rota Fox's also seem like a good choice if you like 17's.

Anything can happen to old parts but if we are going to give up on older Fuchs, we migh as well give up on old engines, transmissions, ect. Forget about 356's. Just drive priuses.
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QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Jun 22 2016, 01:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Jun 21 2016, 06:58 PM) *

Don't do it, not if you drive hard.


Wow! I have heard of that happening. Would the euromeister wheels be OK for a street set of wheels? I haven't heard anything bad on those.

The Rota Fox's also seem like a good choice if you like 17's.

Anything can happen to old parts but if we are going to give up on older Fuchs, we migh as well give up on old engines, transmissions, ect. Forget about 356's. Just drive priuses.

The picture I used was the failure of a fake FUCH, not a real one. I've never seen a real one fail like that. As far as driving a 356, I drove mine all day Saturday.


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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Jun 22 2016, 11:46 AM) *

The picture I used was the failure of a fake FUCH, not a real one. I've never seen a real one fail like that. As far as driving a 356, I drove mine all day Saturday.


First, it's FUCHS. The "S" is part of the name, not a way to make it plural. (It's German for "Fox", hence the fox-head logo. You wouldn't say a single fox was a fok, would you?)

Second, I've seen the real ones fail like that. One of them happened to a friend of mine, though the wheel in question had been (professionally) converted to a three-piece wheel. Cracked right between the lug holes, came apart, and damaged the car. He was thankful that it happened on the way to a DE and not at the DE.

I know of several more instances where real ones have failed in similar fashions, even without having been turned into three-piece wheels.

They're old, and it is very difficult to tell how hard they were used before you got them. You can Zyglow them for cracks, you can X-ray them, you can just decide the odds against it are really steep, or you can buy brand-new wheels.

For my car, at least so far, I'm choosing to ignore the problem and use my old wheels.

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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jun 22 2016, 12:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Jun 22 2016, 11:46 AM) *

The picture I used was the failure of a fake FUCH, not a real one. I've never seen a real one fail like that. As far as driving a 356, I drove mine all day Saturday.


First, it's FUCHS. The "S" is part of the name, not a way to make it plural. (It's German for "Fox", hence the fox-head logo. You wouldn't say a single fox was a fok, would you?)

Second, I've seen the real ones fail like that. One of them happened to a friend of mine, though the wheel in question had been (professionally) converted to a three-piece wheel. Cracked right between the lug holes, came apart, and damaged the car. He was thankful that it happened on the way to a DE and not at the DE.

I know of several more instances where real ones have failed in similar fashions, even without having been turned into three-piece wheels.

They're old, and it is very difficult to tell how hard they were used before you got them. You can Zyglow them for cracks, you can X-ray them, you can just decide the odds against it are really steep, or you can buy brand-new wheels.

For my car, at least so far, I'm choosing to ignore the problem and use my old wheels.

--DD

I'm sure some real FUCHS have cracked like that, but the repro I showed was fairly new if my info was correct, so it should not have cracked like a decades old wheel, it's like the new flywheels from China that hand grenade quickly. Repro stuff is fine for cosmetic stuff, but I never trust it with hard components, not if the real stuff is available.

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2mAn   Replica Fuchs   Jun 20 2016, 01:33 PM
mepstein   Quality - not as nice as the real thing Weight - n...   Jun 20 2016, 01:39 PM
RobW   Only time will tell whether they are worth it or n...   Jun 20 2016, 01:43 PM
JRust   I'm running 16x8 fuch replica's on all 4 c...   Jun 20 2016, 02:12 PM
2mAn   I'm running 16x8 fuch replica's on all 4 ...   Jun 20 2016, 03:46 PM
JRust   but you also have a Subaru motor in yours. you ha...   Jun 20 2016, 06:52 PM
mepstein   but you also have a Subaru motor in yours. you h...   Jun 20 2016, 07:02 PM
JRust   They're not that much, $1-2k for a decen...   Jun 20 2016, 07:19 PM
mepstein   They're not that much, $1-2k for a dece...   Jun 20 2016, 07:23 PM
Coondog   EMPIs 15x6.............$ 150.00 each includes...   Jun 20 2016, 02:47 PM
Dave_Darling   Which Fuchs wheels? There are a number of differe...   Jun 20 2016, 04:34 PM
carr914   . Especially in the 16x8 size. They are difficult...   Jun 20 2016, 05:10 PM
Mueller   http://www.braidusa.com/Wheels/Comp/BZ/BZ.htm Not...   Jun 20 2016, 06:06 PM
jd74914   http://www.braidusa.com/Wheels/Comp/BZ/BZ.htm No...   Jun 20 2016, 08:08 PM
Mueller   [quote name='Mueller' post='2361806' date='Jun 20...   Jun 20 2016, 10:16 PM
jd74914   1 wheel .... if old stock Fuchs are going for ...   Jun 20 2016, 10:24 PM
914itis   I have a real set for sale at pelican , anyone her...   Jun 20 2016, 07:02 PM
carr914   1 wheel .... if old stock Fuchs are going for ...   Jun 21 2016, 04:17 AM
dcheek   A word of caution buying used original Fuchs wheel...   Jun 21 2016, 05:38 AM
23e Heure   Dave's words are wise ones. I just had a crac...   Jun 21 2016, 06:48 AM
colingreene   you dont even own a 914 to put them on?   Jun 21 2016, 09:38 AM
2mAn   There are now some VERY good replica wheels avai...   Jun 21 2016, 10:13 AM
Mueller   There are now some VERY good replica wheels ava...   Jun 21 2016, 02:50 PM
2mAn   Is a pound or two heavier really going to make or...   Jun 21 2016, 03:03 PM
Mueller   [quote name='Mueller' post='2362172' date='Jun 21...   Jun 21 2016, 03:09 PM
2mAn   If that is the case I wouldn't be looking at...   Jun 21 2016, 03:17 PM
Chris914n6   [quote name='Mueller' post='2362179' date='Jun 21...   Jun 23 2016, 07:00 PM
Dave_Darling   The plan is very similar with the 914, though I pl...   Jun 21 2016, 05:18 PM
Cevan   I put 17" Euromeister's on my 911 and lov...   Jun 21 2016, 10:57 AM
colingreene   me? I know, but I try to be as knowledgeable as ...   Jun 21 2016, 12:22 PM
2mAn   I have a E30 and a 914. do both The problem w...   Jun 21 2016, 01:21 PM
campbellcj   Late to the thread but I am using two sets of 15x9...   Jun 21 2016, 01:41 PM
campbellcj   One thing going for you with a -4 cyl is you proba...   Jun 21 2016, 03:15 PM
Mueller   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-111056...   Jun 21 2016, 03:27 PM
2mAn   If somehow I sell the E30 and still have the wheel...   Jun 21 2016, 04:07 PM
carr914   Advantage - Real Fuchs look uber Cool!   Jun 21 2016, 05:15 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Don't do it, not if you drive hard.   Jun 21 2016, 07:58 PM
Justinp71   Don't do it, not if you drive hard. Wow...   Jun 22 2016, 11:07 AM
mepstein   Don't do it, not if you drive hard. Wow...   Jun 22 2016, 11:19 AM
Unobtanium-inc   [quote name='Justinp71' post='2362576' date='Jun ...   Jun 22 2016, 12:46 PM
Dave_Darling   The picture I used was the failure of a fake FUCH...   Jun 22 2016, 02:15 PM
Unobtanium-inc   The picture I used was the failure of a fake FUC...   Jun 22 2016, 07:14 PM
Dave_Darling   ... the repro I showed was fairly new if my info w...   Jun 24 2016, 03:37 PM
2mAn   Quality varies from manufacturer to manufacturer...   Jun 24 2016, 08:46 PM
Mueller   Quality varies from manufacturer to manufacture...   Jun 24 2016, 09:11 PM
jmitro   ... the repro I showed was fairly new if my info ...   Jun 25 2016, 06:47 PM
Mueller   [quote name='Justinp71' post='2362576' date='Jun ...   Jun 22 2016, 01:53 PM
mepstein   [quote name='Justinp71' post='2362576' date='Jun...   Jun 22 2016, 02:29 PM
colingreene   Its crazy to me to be asking these kinds of questi...   Jun 21 2016, 09:11 PM
2mAn   Its crazy to me to be asking these kinds of quest...   Jun 21 2016, 09:53 PM
Dominic   If anyone is looking for 15" Fuchs Deep 6 or ...   Jun 22 2016, 11:37 AM
23e Heure   If anyone is looking for 15" Fuchs Deep 6 or...   Jun 22 2016, 01:09 PM
Dominic   If anyone is looking for 15" Fuchs Deep 6 or...   Jun 24 2016, 12:19 PM
carr914   New or Old Wheels can crack! Stresses from Tra...   Jun 22 2016, 08:13 PM


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