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Spence |
Jun 2 2016, 09:12 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 2-June 16 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 20,059 Region Association: None |
Hi everyone,
This is my first post on your excellent forum. I've owned 914s in the past, but none at the moment. Have spent my time tangled up in British cars, so I don't know much about the air-cooled world... thought I am now pretty familiar with electrical fires! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I've been keeping my eye out for a built nearly-there vintage race car and found this: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5578045362.html Apparently it was campaigned in SoCal as a 6, but is now fitted with a 4. Owner says car runs and drives, but it's unclear what's been done inside the engine. Also unclear who raced it and in what class (apparently it was silver with blue wheels). This weekend I'll be able to go over it more fully with the owner, but I did drop by and check it out at the shop where it's stored. The car is in very nice shape: no rust or rot, good rubber, linkage, very quality glass work with no damage, etc. Fuel cell and harness would need replacing and drivetrain would need a rebuild I'm sure. So, I've got a couple questions I'd love input on: 1) Do any of you know this car? 2) $5500 seems like a pretty good deal, am I wrong? 3) The car's had a 6 before and is ready to take another, but it looks like those engines are prohibitively expensive (for me). Are the 4cyl cars competitive? Assuming the engine that's in there isn't already tuned, how much do these engines need to be competitive? Is it worth keeping the 4 at all? (I've seen a few discussions on this topic but there seems to be some disagreement) I should mention that I have not done any racing yet but would like to get into it. It does seem like this car would qualify for several of the series considering it's been raced already. I'll be going to see the car more fully this weekend, but would appreciate your thoughts so I know what to ask and look for. Spence |
brant |
Jun 23 2016, 08:23 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I hope you cut open that rx7 cooler and gutted the thermostat
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Bill's Racing 914 |
Jun 23 2016, 11:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 2-March 14 From: Southern California Member No.: 17,064 Region Association: None |
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brant |
Jun 23 2016, 11:06 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I hope you cut open that rx7 cooler and gutted the thermostat No I did not ....what's the downside if I don't? It's a restriction to cooling Also a restriction to oil volume (a bottleneck) Possibly motor/oiling problems.... (Restrictions for any potential dry sump motor combined with a long oil pathway... a receipt for motor failure) Not a fan of rx7 coolers They can be cut open and TIG welded. Hopefully without contaminating the system But used coolers are always risky and should be avoided. I'm partial to fluidyne coolers Race motors are too expensive to cut corners in the oil system |
Jetsetsurfshop |
Jun 24 2016, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 814 Joined: 7-April 11 From: Marco Island Florida Member No.: 12,907 Region Association: South East States |
I hope you cut open that rx7 cooler and gutted the thermostat No I did not ....what's the downside if I don't? It's a restriction to cooling Also a restriction to oil volume (a bottleneck) Possibly motor/oiling problems.... Not a fan of rx7 coolers They can be cut open and TIG welded. But used coolers are always risky and should be avoided I agree with Brant here. I'd be worried about the integrity of a used part that is important to the race car. Cooling the oil is only second to safety in my opinion when it comes to the track. If you do it right you can run 210-215 degrees for 14 hours in Florida with crazy drivers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Brant's installation is super slick. Mine is more traditional, but I think we both have Mocal coolers. I bought mine through BAT in the Tampa area. Theres tons of sizes there. Do it once and do it right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) |
Bill's Racing 914 |
Jun 24 2016, 11:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 2-March 14 From: Southern California Member No.: 17,064 Region Association: None |
I hope you cut open that rx7 cooler and gutted the thermostat No I did not ....what's the downside if I don't? It's a restriction to cooling Also a restriction to oil volume (a bottleneck) Possibly motor/oiling problems.... Not a fan of rx7 coolers They can be cut open and TIG welded. But used coolers are always risky and should be avoided I agree with Brant here. I'd be worried about the integrity of a used part that is important to the race car. Cooling the oil is only second to safety in my opinion when it comes to the track. If you do it right you can run 210-215 degrees for 14 hours in Florida with crazy drivers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Brant's installation is super slick. Mine is more traditional, but I think we both have Mocal coolers. I bought mine through BAT in the Tampa area. Theres tons of sizes there. Do it once and do it right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Thanks guys for the help ont he oil cooler.....I inspected it pretty well and it looks clean. I also took apart the thermostat. I agree..it should be plugged. |
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