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Spence |
Jun 2 2016, 09:12 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 2-June 16 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 20,059 Region Association: None |
Hi everyone,
This is my first post on your excellent forum. I've owned 914s in the past, but none at the moment. Have spent my time tangled up in British cars, so I don't know much about the air-cooled world... thought I am now pretty familiar with electrical fires! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I've been keeping my eye out for a built nearly-there vintage race car and found this: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5578045362.html Apparently it was campaigned in SoCal as a 6, but is now fitted with a 4. Owner says car runs and drives, but it's unclear what's been done inside the engine. Also unclear who raced it and in what class (apparently it was silver with blue wheels). This weekend I'll be able to go over it more fully with the owner, but I did drop by and check it out at the shop where it's stored. The car is in very nice shape: no rust or rot, good rubber, linkage, very quality glass work with no damage, etc. Fuel cell and harness would need replacing and drivetrain would need a rebuild I'm sure. So, I've got a couple questions I'd love input on: 1) Do any of you know this car? 2) $5500 seems like a pretty good deal, am I wrong? 3) The car's had a 6 before and is ready to take another, but it looks like those engines are prohibitively expensive (for me). Are the 4cyl cars competitive? Assuming the engine that's in there isn't already tuned, how much do these engines need to be competitive? Is it worth keeping the 4 at all? (I've seen a few discussions on this topic but there seems to be some disagreement) I should mention that I have not done any racing yet but would like to get into it. It does seem like this car would qualify for several of the series considering it's been raced already. I'll be going to see the car more fully this weekend, but would appreciate your thoughts so I know what to ask and look for. Spence |
campbellcj |
Jun 24 2016, 12:10 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,550 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
I agree on the redline/longevity of the -4's and definitely with the stock-ish 2.0 and 2.4 -4's I ran long ago, there was no point going over 5600 or somewhere thereabouts. I moved to a -6 in 2004 as I did not see the Type4 powerplant providing the power, longevity and driver experience I wanted longer-term. (My current -6 FWIW makes peak power around 7500 and safely revs to 8000).
Oil cooling is extra critical around here (desert climate). My current car actually has an oversized Mazda race cooler bought new from their motorsports division, with AN-12 lines a Troutman thermostat and a huge custom duct/shroud setup. I actually have to block off the front bumper intake to allow the car get warm enough in the cooler months... |
Bill's Racing 914 |
Jun 24 2016, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 2-March 14 From: Southern California Member No.: 17,064 Region Association: None |
I agree on the redline/longevity of the -4's and definitely with the stock-ish 2.0 and 2.4 -4's I ran long ago, there was no point going over 5600 or somewhere thereabouts. I moved to a -6 in 2004 as I did not see the Type4 powerplant providing the power, longevity and driver experience I wanted longer-term. (My current -6 FWIW makes peak power around 7500 and safely revs to 8000). Oil cooling is extra critical around here (desert climate). My current car actually has an oversized Mazda race cooler bought new from their motorsports division, with AN-12 lines a Troutman thermostat and a huge custom duct/shroud setup. I actually have to block off the front bumper intake to allow the car get warm enough in the cooler months... This is my oil cooler install. I used AN-10 lines. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=273591 |
Bill's Racing 914 |
Jun 24 2016, 02:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 2-March 14 From: Southern California Member No.: 17,064 Region Association: None |
I agree on the redline/longevity of the -4's and definitely with the stock-ish 2.0 and 2.4 -4's I ran long ago, there was no point going over 5600 or somewhere thereabouts. I moved to a -6 in 2004 as I did not see the Type4 powerplant providing the power, longevity and driver experience I wanted longer-term. (My current -6 FWIW makes peak power around 7500 and safely revs to 8000). Oil cooling is extra critical around here (desert climate). My current car actually has an oversized Mazda race cooler bought new from their motorsports division, with AN-12 lines a Troutman thermostat and a huge custom duct/shroud setup. I actually have to block off the front bumper intake to allow the car get warm enough in the cooler months... Go to this link to see my oil cooler install. I used AN-10 lines. Takes forever to heat up standing still. Haven't had it to the track yet to see what happens to the oil temp. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=273591 |
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