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Concours judging for preservation class |
22truckie |
Jul 25 2016, 11:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 23-June 16 From: Lake Stevens WA Member No.: 20,138 Region Association: None |
Ok. At the risk of offending I have a question. I plan on submitting my unrestored 914 in the preservation class for judging at the national Porsche Parade in Spokane WA next year ( live in the state). I was advised by a very helpful member of this site about how the judging goes. He stated in preservation class judging, if you have factory paint and there are some runs in it , from the factory, that I needed to wet sand those down or I would get deducted. I also noted to him that on my car there were areas where the person at the factory who applied the adhesive for the weather stripping was a little over jelious and got some brush strokes outside the weather stripping. He also stated those would probably need to be removed to prevent point deduction. He then stated he was a concours judge for 914's. Now I have entered major concours shows in preservation classes and placed and never heard anything along those lines. I guess my question is this : If you are not judging on how the car was made exactly from the factory with no alterations or modifications at all, including, and especially, factory imperfections. Then what exactly are you preserving? How the car was made at the factory or how you wish the car looked from the factory. I know I am a new member but I am a long term unrestored, untouched addict who works hard at having people understand how important these treasures really are. Hope this spurs some good posts. Again no offense was ment by this post. I very much appreciate the help the judge was trying to give me
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22truckie |
Jul 26 2016, 11:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 23-June 16 From: Lake Stevens WA Member No.: 20,138 Region Association: None |
Tom. First off, I hope you come up to Spokane next year as I would love to meet you and talk. Congrats on your achievements on judging. Trust me when I say that the far majority of judges are very nice people who are doing their job and are very respectful and appreciative of what they are looking at. A little about myself ( also not intending to brag). I have entered 4 national high end concours and have placed in all 4 with my last one being a first in class, that car is being invited to Amelia Island Concours next year. It is absolute unrestored/ factory original in every way and a very rare car. I have also achieved a Bloomington Gold Award. My question is still the same ( it is not geared tward you as you are just going by the guidelines given to you). In these top venues where supream attention is given tward originality, factory blemishes are embraced and expected to be there. Preservation is what the name states : to preserve what was originally made. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because the car is in a concours does not change this fact. Look at Pebble Beach and Amelia Island. Both have preservation classes. They would never dream of deducting points for such. In fact they would rather see patina, some chips and a little worn through paint caused by the drivers arm than to touch that up. They would actually deduct points for such an act. They are the top two concours shows around so they must be doing something right. Same with Bloomington Gold. I have also judged at concours shows in preservation classes and as mentioned in another post, wrote the authenticity manual for Studibaker Avanti's (400 page full color photos). I guess what I am saying is that my 914 will be a true unrestored survivor with every finish left as time and the factory made it. The car will be extremely detailed by way of cleaning only it has lasted this long, my feeling is I need to respect that. I would LOVE to talk to the head of concours judging for the national Parade and see if I can respectfully change a few of these areas. Again Tom, thank you so very much for your time and helpful post and links. Look forward to meeting you next year!!
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