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| BRAVE_HELIOS |
 Jul 26 2016, 08:35 PM
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"Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens"  Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 25-September 06 From: The Land Of ID! Member No.: 6,920 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Can anyone divulge details on the Renegade Hybrid radiator system such as dimensions, Inlet and outlet sizes and rad type (number of rows, if cross flow etc...). Is it even allowed ;-)?
This hot summer has proven that my system cannot handle it. I have some good components such as a 2000 cfm, 9 blade fan out of a Ford Taurus. The remote mechanical water pump is a standard R.H. unit. I also have a Griffin radiator, model 125241-H... no radiator cap (inlet=1.5" and outlet=1.75"). https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gri-1-25241-x The dimensions are 16"x 27.5" x 3". it is a 2 row unit. Although the inlet/outlet sizes are different, the hoses carrying coolant from front to rear are all the same size at 1.25 inch diameter. The Tech rep at Griffin seems to think that the rad should be fine but I ain't no 4 core unit either. The other part of this is the car has a Chalon kit installed. I question whether the bumper opening for rad air is sufficiently sized. The opening is ducted to the bulkhead opening. The inner fender walls are fully open to allow the air to exit. From all that I've read; the viable solutions is to either go with a RH rad setup (or as close to as possible) and/or go with an electric water pump. I think I have some (most) of what RH would sell me as there rad kit. The only difference I can see is the rad size/type and the bumper opening size. Pictures of my current setup can be found here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...132273&hl=# I feel like I am close to getting this figured out. Just a bit more tinkering is needed. Thanks! |
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| 1stworks |
Jul 27 2016, 09:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
Heres my in and out on renegade set up.96 deg I run 200 to 225ish.
That's a lighter for ref. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1469634194.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1469634194.2.jpg) 5.3 Ls electric water pump. |
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| cali914 |
Jul 27 2016, 09:49 AM
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cali914 Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 26-April 06 From: Berkeley Ca. Member No.: 5,934 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(1stworks @ Jul 27 2016, 08:43 AM)  Heres my in and out on renegade set up.96 deg I run 200 to 225ish. That's a lighter for ref. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1469634194.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1469634194.2.jpg) 5.3 Ls electric water pump. LS run hotter than old school small blocks. 210-220 normal. |
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BRAVE_HELIOS Hot Summer; Hot, Overheating V-8 Radiator Setup. Jul 26 2016, 08:35 PM
Mike Bellis Your radiator should be big enough. Mechanical pum... Jul 26 2016, 09:21 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS Interesting. What year GTS? Did you pick it up at ... Jul 26 2016, 09:51 PM messix link doesnt go to build thread Jul 26 2016, 09:37 PM messix the pictures of your set up show that there is uns... Jul 26 2016, 09:54 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Yes, but since those pictures were taken, I added ... Jul 26 2016, 10:06 PM 76-914
Yes, but since those pictures were taken, I added... Jul 27 2016, 08:04 AM Mike Bellis Mine is an ebay special http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-... Jul 26 2016, 10:00 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, what are th... Jul 26 2016, 10:03 PM Mike Bellis
Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, what are t... Jul 26 2016, 10:05 PM Mike Bellis Radiator install
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ind... Jul 26 2016, 10:02 PM Mike Bellis What pressure is your cap?
Do you run a water wet... Jul 26 2016, 10:09 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Not sure what a wetter is. Coolant additive? Yes.
... Jul 26 2016, 10:16 PM Mike Bellis
Not sure what a wetter is. Coolant additive? Yes.... Jul 26 2016, 10:21 PM cali914
Can anyone divulge details on the Renegade Hybrid... Jul 27 2016, 12:47 AM veekry9 A restrictive cooling system will overheat,in spit... Jul 27 2016, 12:59 AM Chris914n6 Post pics of the whole system please. Jul 27 2016, 01:35 AM BRAVE_HELIOS Here are some pictures I took today.
The holes i... Jul 27 2016, 01:57 PM BRAVE_HELIOS So; Iv'e been looking at the replies along wit... Jul 29 2016, 08:22 PM cali914 Make sure your fill is higher than your radiator a... Jul 27 2016, 09:28 AM Andyrew If after you've done all of Mike's suggest... Jul 27 2016, 09:43 AM BIGKAT_83 Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your pro... Jul 27 2016, 02:49 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Bob,
Is the header tank the same as the expansion... Jul 27 2016, 06:21 PM d914
Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your pr... Jul 27 2016, 03:26 PM BRAVE_HELIOS It's great to get solid reliable information f... Jul 27 2016, 04:48 PM 914forme
It's great to get solid reliable information ... Jul 27 2016, 05:06 PM Chris H.
Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your p... Jul 28 2016, 06:34 PM Mueller Is this Felix's old car? Sure looks like the o... Jul 27 2016, 04:59 PM d914 I'll let him explain but it constantly purges ... Jul 27 2016, 06:30 PM BIGKAT_83 The header tank is the same as a expansion tank. T... Jul 27 2016, 07:21 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Bob,
More details please!
1. Manufacture of ... Jul 27 2016, 08:49 PM billium01 Maybe its something else like a blown head gasket?... Jul 27 2016, 09:06 PM Mike Bellis Tony, I see from your pics you have the big block ... Jul 27 2016, 11:18 PM BRAVE_HELIOS The pump is only 2-3 years old.
Lots of replies o... Jul 28 2016, 09:16 AM Reverend Troublemaker It doesn't matter if its 1 day old...its a mec... Jul 28 2016, 11:25 AM veekry9
[url=http://210.101.116.115/fisita/pdf/H202.pdf... Jul 28 2016, 06:45 AM veekry9
Restriction to 3/4"id?
Neckdown to 3/4... Jul 28 2016, 08:03 AM Reverend Troublemaker Your radiator is fine, as is your supply lines, in... Jul 28 2016, 08:15 AM d914 Jags that run have some nice adapters also.. turne... Jul 28 2016, 08:58 AM BIGKAT_83 Here are a few pictures of my radiator install. Th... Jul 28 2016, 09:16 AM Chris914n6 Confuchris say "Eureka you got it all wrong... Jul 30 2016, 12:56 AM Reverend Troublemaker This is fairly easy to follow - your engine doesn... Jul 30 2016, 07:26 AM Reverend Troublemaker This is from an old Renegade diagram but the basic... Jul 30 2016, 07:26 AM veekry9
The lines to the header tanks at each end are ... Jul 30 2016, 07:52 AM v82go This is the system I built for mine. The puke/de... Jul 30 2016, 09:29 AM Chris H. Nice setup Bob! Sorry to hijack but would you... Jul 30 2016, 09:51 AM veekry9
Looks good,tho I gotta ask.How does the air get... Jul 30 2016, 09:56 AM Chris H. I think he said it's the highest point, low pr... Jul 30 2016, 10:07 AM Reverend Troublemaker This is not as complex as it may seem...it is also... Jul 30 2016, 10:40 AM cali914
This is not as complex as it may seem...it is als... Jul 30 2016, 06:23 PM v82go Hi
The puke tank is pressurized and since being h... Jul 30 2016, 10:45 AM Andyrew
Hi
The puke tank is pressurized and since being ... Jul 30 2016, 01:06 PM Chris H. Thank you Bob! Very clean install. Nice work... Jul 30 2016, 11:09 AM BIGKAT_83 I cut a spare hood for a 2012 ford GT 500 hood ven... Jul 30 2016, 02:10 PM cali914
I cut a spare hood for a 2012 ford GT 500 hood ve... Jul 30 2016, 06:26 PM Reverend Troublemaker My car is a race car, more than anything else, and... Jul 30 2016, 07:29 PM cali914
My car is a race car, more than anything else, an... Jul 30 2016, 11:48 PM jdunn More good information here:
http://www.914world.c... Jul 30 2016, 09:21 PM Reverend Troublemaker Cali: The coolant temp depends on the air temp and... Jul 31 2016, 05:51 AM jd74914
LS engines make their best power HOT; 230 is wher... Aug 1 2016, 07:07 AM 914forme Only thing with hood venting is you can feel the h... Jul 31 2016, 02:25 PM Reverend Troublemaker That hasn't been my experience at all...my foo... Jul 31 2016, 02:32 PM Andyrew Its been my experience that you can feel the heat.... Jul 31 2016, 02:53 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Dang, I can't believe all of the responses... ... Jul 31 2016, 06:59 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Hey all,
I had a chance to draw up what I think w... Aug 8 2016, 05:07 PM Chris914n6 Header tank goes inline = same hose. I'd say o... Aug 8 2016, 05:15 PM BRAVE_HELIOS I believe that is what I show with what I have mar... Aug 8 2016, 05:23 PM BIGKAT_83
Hey all,
I had a chance to draw up what I think ... Aug 8 2016, 06:11 PM Chris914n6 I'll admit I don't have a sbc, so I don... Aug 8 2016, 07:55 PM veekry9
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In and Out holes.
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A handy and ne... Aug 11 2016, 05:49 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Thanks veekry9! Your expansion tank connection... Aug 13 2016, 03:58 PM 914forme VW Death Star, works great.
Aug 13 2016, 04:59 PM Chris914n6 MR2 system. MORE PICS
http://www.914world.com/bbs... Aug 13 2016, 05:22 PM veekry9 Great pix,and a way to scale the requirements for ... Aug 13 2016, 06:08 PM Chris914n6
Great pix,and a way to scale the requirements for... Aug 13 2016, 08:11 PM Rand
You do not know of which you ask! (or you do?... Aug 13 2016, 08:19 PM veekry9 Cooling?
BraveHelios was inquiring advice.None to ... Aug 13 2016, 09:07 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Almost ready to take things apart one more time. S... Aug 24 2016, 04:50 PM Andyrew
Almost ready to take things apart one more time. ... Aug 24 2016, 09:59 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Slowly progressing.
Quick question; which part of... Aug 28 2016, 04:30 PM Chris914n6 I have a couple of those from ebay. Ask them what ... Aug 24 2016, 09:16 PM Andyrew That upper hose. Either of those mounted in that p... Aug 28 2016, 04:41 PM veekry9 Not less than N.
The method to calculate the size ... Aug 28 2016, 05:33 PM BRAVE_HELIOS Here is a picture of the completed setup. Still tr... Sep 18 2016, 05:58 PM Andyrew
Here is a picture of the completed setup. Still t... Sep 18 2016, 10:46 PM Chris H. Yes just fill the system up and run it through a c... Sep 19 2016, 12:16 PM BRAVE_HELIOS An update (pictures to follow);
I have the system... Sep 28 2016, 11:26 AM v82go Do you have a manual over-ride switch for your fan... Sep 29 2016, 07:32 AM Andyrew Put one of these powering a 12ga wire and a relay ... Sep 29 2016, 07:52 AM socal1200r I had similar overheating issues with a 2000 Sonom... Sep 29 2016, 08:05 AM Andyrew Quick question. How fast is it getting up to temp?... Sep 29 2016, 08:17 AM cali914 Man with all the money and time your spending get ... Sep 29 2016, 08:28 AM v82go One more note/
I would remove the thermostat a... Sep 29 2016, 09:13 AM BRAVE_HELIOS I do have a manual switch. It is located on the ce... Sep 29 2016, 06:44 PM Mike Bellis When is the last time you replace your water pump?... Sep 29 2016, 08:28 PM jimkelly hum :idea:
When is the last time you replace y... Sep 29 2016, 08:33 PM BRAVE_HELIOS God, if I have to take apart the water pump one mo... Sep 29 2016, 09:03 PM matthepcat
When is the last time you replace your water pump... Sep 29 2016, 09:13 PM |
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