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> A little MORE OT - update, Shop Talk, what to build?
Gunn1
post Jul 31 2016, 05:33 PM
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Figuring out a floor plan for a new Shop Building. Don't have a unlimited budget so trying to pre plan carefully to get the most value, while not making to many mistakes.

If you were going to build your "dream" shop, or already have one, what do you think should be mandatory, or a feature(s) of yours you wouldn't want to do without.
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post Jul 31 2016, 11:50 PM
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In MN - go with fully insulated + vapor barriers @ all walls & roof/ceiling, & full HVAC so you can work in the all 4 seasons. You'll want natural gas on the heat side (unless you go with a heat pump), so also have an NG outlet or two in the shop area too.

You'll want 12'-14' clear ceiling height for a lift with a car top & under - I like 4 post, but others prefer 2.

Get a good vapor barrier under the slap & seal the top with a good epoxy so you won't have moisture issues.

If you can get the height in your neighborhood & city, then try to work in a full attic with the floor rated for 100-200# psf (rather than just ceiling joists) for parts & supplies storage (hopefully stand-up or semi-stand-up ht. under the peak & 4-5' to each side if possible, so you don't have to crawl around. You should also get your air handling HVAC & even the air compressor up there, to save more usable floor space.

In addition to the typical 110/115/120/125 V 3-prong outlets, you'll also want at least 2 or more 220/230/240 V 30-50A outlets for a welder, air compressor, etc. which take a heavier draw, & you'll want some upstairs in the attic too for whatever goes up there.

If you can work it into your budget, a residential level automatic fire sprinkler system for both levels would be a good idea, since you'll have a lot of flammables & valuable parts & tools in there. The high end would be a new halon type system (I'm blanking on the newer human friendly version's name) to avoid the water damage, but they're pricey.

Also make sure that they do a thick enough & properly reinforced slab, with a good soil prep under it, so that it will support the extra loads of the cars on lifts, etc., as well as at the outside driveway & apron out front. Depending upon your site, you may even be able to work in a drive thru situation with front & rear doors.

Check on the Motorsports Classics & Classic Motorsports sister magazines' websites for their recent dream garage articles, which will have a lot of good ideas.

Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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OU812   A little MORE OT - update   Jul 31 2016, 05:33 PM
mepstein   Don't make anything permanent at first and mak...   Jul 31 2016, 05:48 PM
snakemain   Make sure your ceiling and doors are high enough t...   Jul 31 2016, 06:07 PM
DirtyCossack   Make sure your ceiling and doors are high enough ...   Jul 31 2016, 08:39 PM
URY914   Put a big sink in. See if you can find an old stai...   Jul 31 2016, 06:35 PM
URY914   http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdi......   Jul 31 2016, 06:38 PM
OU812   http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdi......   Jul 31 2016, 06:46 PM
jtprettyman   URY914 beat me to it, but this place will be your ...   Jul 31 2016, 06:47 PM
URY914   There is almost too much info there. :(   Jul 31 2016, 07:11 PM
stugray   You didnt say how much space you have, so here...   Jul 31 2016, 09:08 PM
Tom_T   In MN - go with fully insulated + vapor barriers @...   Jul 31 2016, 11:50 PM
Jon H.   My shop is 33'x40' with 14' ceilings. ...   Aug 1 2016, 05:29 AM
mepstein   4 post lifts are for storage. 2 posts are for work...   Aug 1 2016, 05:35 AM
billh1963   4 post lifts are for storage. 2 posts are for wor...   Aug 1 2016, 06:28 AM
billh1963   If you have the acreage you should build bigger. 1...   Aug 1 2016, 06:31 AM
JOEPROPER   I agree with a lot of the responses. I think a cl...   Aug 1 2016, 07:35 AM
flyer86d   The garage that was the business that I sold this ...   Aug 1 2016, 08:03 AM
mbseto   RE: A little MORE OT - update   Aug 1 2016, 08:30 AM
Jeff Hail   Vertical Parts Washer?   Aug 2 2016, 02:33 PM
barefoot   Naw; this is better:   Aug 3 2016, 03:43 PM
OU812   [quote name='mbseto' post='2379086' date='Aug 1 2...   Aug 4 2016, 08:00 AM
mlindner   Heat and A/C, yes sink, stainless steel work servi...   Aug 1 2016, 08:55 AM
rhodyguy   Kraft faced insulation is last century. Look at a ...   Aug 1 2016, 09:21 AM
OU812   Was just going to mention a floor drain with water...   Aug 1 2016, 10:10 AM
veekry9   Well,when it's -27F and blowing,a nice insulat...   Aug 2 2016, 05:02 AM
914forme   You can pea into a bush out back, you can use a bi...   Aug 2 2016, 09:27 AM
6freak   a 914-6   Aug 2 2016, 03:21 PM
My 914   I would recommend that you build a workbench the l...   Aug 2 2016, 03:27 PM
OU812   All great suggestions......I hope to incorporate a...   Aug 2 2016, 05:59 PM
My 914   All great suggestions......I hope to incorporate ...   Aug 3 2016, 04:28 AM
6freak   All great suggestions......I hope to incorporate ...   Aug 3 2016, 11:48 AM
OU812   All great suggestions......I hope to incorporate...   Aug 3 2016, 12:12 PM
6freak   [quote name='6freak' post='2379959' date='Aug 3 2...   Aug 3 2016, 03:06 PM
DirtyCossack   One of the best things I've ever done for my s...   Aug 2 2016, 08:44 PM
somd914   My garage is 26' wide by 36' deep with an ...   Aug 3 2016, 04:16 AM
My 914   another option along those lines that will also...   Aug 4 2016, 08:44 AM
flyer86d   The shop I built at home is 30 by 45 with a 12 foo...   Aug 4 2016, 09:12 AM
mbseto   The floor length allows you to use it as a floor d...   Aug 4 2016, 11:24 AM
rhodyguy   If you want 13' walls you have buy 14' sto...   Aug 4 2016, 11:40 AM
OU812   Thanks for the pointers to all. What I have curre...   Aug 4 2016, 03:44 PM
Gunn1   My buddy Rand had asked for Update and photos for ...   Nov 19 2016, 01:38 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Your "buddy" Rand? :rotfl: :rotfl: :ch...   Nov 19 2016, 01:55 PM
Gunn1   Your "buddy" Rand? :rotfl: :rotfl: :c...   Nov 19 2016, 02:29 PM
Rand   Sorry gang, shouldn't have said anything. Oof....   Nov 19 2016, 02:32 PM
Gunn1   Sorry gang, shouldn't have said anything. Oof...   Nov 19 2016, 02:43 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Damn Rand. I think you should go. Let's all g...   Nov 19 2016, 02:52 PM
Rand   We could do a work party to help build the shop / ...   Nov 19 2016, 02:54 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I'm as good a Carpenter as i am a cabinetmaker...   Nov 19 2016, 03:08 PM


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