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22truckie
post Jul 25 2016, 11:33 PM
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Ok. At the risk of offending I have a question. I plan on submitting my unrestored 914 in the preservation class for judging at the national Porsche Parade in Spokane WA next year ( live in the state). I was advised by a very helpful member of this site about how the judging goes. He stated in preservation class judging, if you have factory paint and there are some runs in it , from the factory, that I needed to wet sand those down or I would get deducted. I also noted to him that on my car there were areas where the person at the factory who applied the adhesive for the weather stripping was a little over jelious and got some brush strokes outside the weather stripping. He also stated those would probably need to be removed to prevent point deduction. He then stated he was a concours judge for 914's. Now I have entered major concours shows in preservation classes and placed and never heard anything along those lines. I guess my question is this : If you are not judging on how the car was made exactly from the factory with no alterations or modifications at all, including, and especially, factory imperfections. Then what exactly are you preserving? How the car was made at the factory or how you wish the car looked from the factory. I know I am a new member but I am a long term unrestored, untouched addict who works hard at having people understand how important these treasures really are. Hope this spurs some good posts. Again no offense was ment by this post. I very much appreciate the help the judge was trying to give me
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post Sep 15 2016, 02:43 PM
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Every one of the cars that I've owned over the years, had glue residue and paint runs. Paint runs were mainly in the front and rear trunks, and the under side of the doors. I wouldn't even consider wet sanding it smooth. Never came up as an issue in zone 1. What did come up, like Tom and others mentioned were untouched up chips/scratches and dings. If they were touched up, then no deduction. A couple tenths of a point is the difference between winning and losing.
I did have glue residue pointed out on some of the cars at events. For the following show, I addressed that. Being I pulled a fair amount of the seals to prep the cars anyway, cleaning that up wasn't a big deal. Nor did I feel it was detrimental to the car's originality. The products I used, took it off anyway. Getting a coat of wax under where they lie for protection was more important to me.
The front trunk gutter seal I would always pull off and clean up. Each time you wash the car, water will get trapped in there. I made it a point to pull the front trunk seal, and rear trunk seals off after a wash so they could be properly dried, and prevent future rust. Make sure the seals are completely dry before you put them back in.
Glue residue, up to you. But think about water sitting in the gutters when you wash it. Factory paint runs leave.
By all means enter your car. You can use the gigs as a check list for the next event. If you feel something is going to diminish the cars originality, then don't do it irregardless of who is suggesting it to you.
Like Tom said, you can always bring that matter up with the panel to discuss it and right the wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Good luck!
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22truckie   Concours judging for preservation class   Jul 25 2016, 11:33 PM
Cuda911   Interesting questions. I find it very hard to beli...   Jul 26 2016, 12:55 AM
mepstein   He was advising you to over restore the car. Don...   Jul 26 2016, 04:48 AM
Tom_T   He was advising you to over restore the car. Don...   Jul 26 2016, 02:22 PM
mepstein   He was advising you to over restore the car. Don...   Jul 26 2016, 10:05 PM
Tom_T   Hi again 22truckie, My apologies if I was unclear...   Jul 26 2016, 01:28 PM
Tom_T   Okay 22truckie, FYI & that of others reading,...   Jul 26 2016, 02:13 PM
22truckie   Tom. First off, I hope you come up to Spokane next...   Jul 26 2016, 11:37 PM
alfagta   Along the lines of this discussion could any curre...   Aug 31 2016, 08:56 AM
Scott S   I just stumbled on this thread - I find it concern...   Sep 13 2016, 03:49 PM
smg914   Scott S Quote: The way this thread reads, it appea...   Sep 13 2016, 05:32 PM
mepstein   Scott S Quote: The way this thread reads, it appe...   Sep 13 2016, 08:08 PM
Scott S   Hi Steve - I have drooled over your car for years....   Sep 13 2016, 05:41 PM
smg914   Thanks Scott! Mark, Probably not. My goal w...   Sep 13 2016, 08:59 PM
oakpark   THe best way to find out what will happen on the P...   Sep 13 2016, 10:01 PM
John Jentz   Ok. At the risk of offending I have a question. I...   Sep 14 2016, 09:57 AM
mepstein   Ok. At the risk of offending I have a question. ...   Sep 14 2016, 06:29 PM
John Jentz   [quote name='John Jentz' post='2398157' date='Sep...   Sep 15 2016, 08:56 AM
Cracker   I am about as far removed from your position as po...   Sep 14 2016, 11:59 AM
Ferg   Judges are not perfect, I think I would document o...   Sep 14 2016, 12:57 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Concours. Beauty contests. Who needs' em? B...   Sep 15 2016, 01:34 PM
tod914   Every one of the cars that I've owned over the...   Sep 15 2016, 02:43 PM
CVLCPorsche   Small world, I sold the OP the car he is prepping ...   Sep 27 2016, 11:56 PM
Cracker   Nathan - Very nicely written and honest advice - a...   Sep 28 2016, 05:17 AM
alfagta   Nathan, I'm in Tacoma and was wondering about ...   Sep 29 2016, 08:59 AM


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