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> 914 to 914-6: High Treason?, Should I convert my mint 2.0?
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post Oct 18 2016, 08:49 PM
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Hello everyone. I am the proud second owner of a '76 914 2.0. It has been in the custody of my Dad and me since 1987. It is close to mint condition. It has 57,000 original miles. I replaced the goofy gigantic steering wheel and the wheels - other than that it is all original. The paint is near perfect, there is no rust and there are no known mechanical issues.

My first world problem is this: I have always wanted a 6. I want more off-the-line speed. I want that perfect sleeper. Given how few nearly-perfect 914 specimens there are out there, is it dumb/treasonous for me to consider converting my 2.0 to a 6? If it is not, can any of you give me a ballpark of what such a conversion, done correctly, would cost? Thank you for your opinions.
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post Oct 19 2016, 12:06 PM
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A lot of good opinions here, and I respect all of them even if I don't agree with them.

But I'm with Rob on this one. Why?

1. When building a hot rod, it's better (for the builder) to start with a great example of a less desirable model or year than to start with a car that needs everything. Talk about expensive—paint and body can easily consume $20-30k, or far more, and you still don't end up with a car as nice as a really original car. Better in some ways—maybe—but I'd rather have original paint and interior every time.

2. If was building another six conversion, a very nice original 1975 1.8 or 1975-1976 2.0 would absolutely be my choice as a basis. I do feel a bit differently when we begin to talk about rare AND desirable models. An acquaintance is looking at Canepa-izing a 959 and doing a complete color change inside and out. Dark blue non-metallic on brown leather was sounding great to me until I saw the car in silver and metallic gray leather. I hate metallic gray leather, and silver 959s are "common," but...it's a 959. A 1976 914 will never be a 959, or a 1967 911S or a 914-6 or a 1973-1974 914 2.0 imho.

3. More isn't always the answer. Some people don't want two sports cars, and especially not two versions of the same sports car. When I thought about converting my 914-4 to six cylinders, part of the rationale that put me over the edge was I could only see budget and space in my life for one vintage Porsche—not two—and while I hadn't been interested in converting my car up to that point, it made sense to put "the" Porsche engine in the 914 that was taking up the one spot I had for an old car. Every time I start the flat six, I smile. Of course, there are other similar lines of logic besides space—such as bandwidth, insurance, upkeep, etc.—so putting the engine you want in the car you have, rather than adding another car, makes more sense for some.

Anyway, to the OP's question: I don't view it as an offense. It's a 914. And it was meant to be fun above all else. If you'll have more fun with the car running on six cylinders—and if the conversion process will put your father and you on a new road together, adding sentimental value—then for me the choice would be easy. It doesn't sound like "price" is in your objectives for the car. It sounds like value is. Only you can determine what that means for you—and you've got some great feedback here that may benefit you and others, too.

Again, a lot of great opinions from a lot of experienced people in a great community. Did I say,

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Technicolored Horrors   914 to 914-6: High Treason?   Oct 18 2016, 08:49 PM
Larmo63   Probably best to leave it alone, but I'm putti...   Oct 18 2016, 08:56 PM
horizontally-opposed   To each their own, and the passage of time may mak...   Oct 18 2016, 09:05 PM
horizontally-opposed   Oh yeah... :wttc:   Oct 18 2016, 09:05 PM
McMark   Cruise up to Grand Rapids before the snow comes an...   Oct 18 2016, 09:31 PM
N_Jay   Hello everyone. I am the proud second owner of a...   Oct 18 2016, 09:54 PM
Mikey914   Keep your car stock and drive. Get a second and b...   Oct 18 2016, 10:04 PM
OllieG   Keep your car stock and drive. Get a second and ...   Oct 19 2016, 01:28 AM
euro911   [quote name='Mikey914' post='2413014' date='Oct 19...   Oct 19 2016, 02:27 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Mikey914' post='2413014' date='Oct 1...   Oct 19 2016, 07:15 AM
OllieG   [quote name='OllieG' post='2413054' date='Oct 19 ...   Oct 19 2016, 09:51 AM
Chris914n6   A mint stock car will be more valuable in the fu...   Oct 19 2016, 03:00 PM
JOEPROPER   Keep your car stock and drive. Get a second and ...   Oct 19 2016, 09:26 AM
Larmo63   I'm right in the middle of McMark's disser...   Oct 18 2016, 10:14 PM
infraredcalvin   This also doesn't include upgraded brakes to s...   Oct 18 2016, 10:26 PM
Coondog   If you have the money then make the switch...... :...   Oct 18 2016, 10:29 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Why bastardize a beautiful original 914/4 with sen...   Oct 18 2016, 10:41 PM
malcolm2   Why bastardize a beautiful original 914/4 with se...   Oct 19 2016, 05:50 AM
injunmort   your car do what you want. having said that. a 2/3...   Oct 18 2016, 10:42 PM
Chris914n6   A mint stock car will be more valuable in the futu...   Oct 18 2016, 10:56 PM
Catorse   A mint stock car will be more valuable in the fut...   Oct 19 2016, 08:52 AM
mepstein   Doesn't make sence to date blondes if you real...   Oct 19 2016, 04:29 AM
socal1200r   "...Jake Raby charges $20k for his 4 cy...   Oct 19 2016, 04:56 AM
mb911   I am not a huge fan of the type 4 mostly because o...   Oct 19 2016, 05:09 AM
mb911   I guess my point is you should do it if you want t...   Oct 19 2016, 05:10 AM
Cairo94507   I tend to agree your better off to leave your fami...   Oct 19 2016, 06:19 AM
Cracker   Leave it alone. Buy a second generation Honda S200...   Oct 19 2016, 07:07 AM
iwanta914-6   Personally, IF the option to buy another car to mo...   Oct 19 2016, 07:36 AM
orthobiz   Pictures please. What color? Paul   Oct 19 2016, 07:40 AM
patssle   I'm running stock brakes on 4 lug wheels and...   Oct 19 2016, 08:54 AM
Steve   If it's a mint unmolested car, I would leave i...   Oct 19 2016, 09:03 AM
ConeDodger   You should start with the best car you can. So, it...   Oct 19 2016, 09:54 AM
PanelBilly   Sell it now. Before prices drop more. Buy a comple...   Oct 19 2016, 10:10 AM
Cracker   Good option but prices have already dropped - you ...   Oct 19 2016, 10:35 AM
krazykonrad   If its really original, I would stick with stock. ...   Oct 19 2016, 10:17 AM
iwanta914-6   Or buy this and save it! http://www.ebay.com/...   Oct 19 2016, 10:20 AM
mb911   Or buy this and save it! http://www.ebay.com...   Oct 19 2016, 11:16 AM
malcolm2   [quote name='iwanta914-6' post='2413194' dat...   Oct 19 2016, 01:54 PM
sixnotfour   I converted my dads 914-4 to a six drove it a long...   Oct 19 2016, 11:38 AM
Steve   It's from Auto Atlanta, so it's gotta be a...   Oct 19 2016, 11:39 AM
Porschef   Always seems to be a good deal to be found in that...   Oct 19 2016, 11:40 AM
horizontally-opposed   A lot of good opinions here, and I respect all of ...   Oct 19 2016, 12:06 PM
Ferg   A lot of good opinions here, and I respect all of...   Oct 19 2016, 12:13 PM
Amphicar770   Hmm, lots of opinions, guess I will add mine. For...   Oct 19 2016, 12:14 PM
rgalla9146   I'm an old crank I guess. A beautiful orig...   Oct 19 2016, 12:27 PM
altitude411   This has gone on long enough... :ttiwwp: * one...   Oct 19 2016, 02:36 PM
Rand   Simple question: Is this car an investment, or the...   Oct 19 2016, 03:21 PM
RickS   I converted my near pristine 1971 with 65k miles ...   Oct 19 2016, 08:37 PM


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