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Gunn1
post Nov 18 2016, 11:08 PM
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After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter factory EFI) the fuel system builds pressure as it should when the key is turned to the on position, but once the system is up to pressure (about 40PSI on the gauge) the pump shuts off as it should but the pressure drops on the gauge. Car will start but barely. Used to build pressure then the pump would shut off but gauge would stay/hold pressure at right around 40PSI until car was started. Do I have a leak somewhere. there is no evidence or gas smell.

what could it be? Up until now the car always started and ran great.
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Gunn1 @ Nov 18 2016, 10:08 PM) *

After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter factory EFI) the fuel system builds pressure as it should when the key is turned to the on position, but once the system is up to pressure (about 40PSI on the gauge) the pump shuts off as it should but the pressure drops on the gauge. Car will start but barely. Used to build pressure then the pump would shut off but gauge would stay/hold pressure at right around 40PSI until car was started. Do I have a leak somewhere. there is no evidence or gas smell.

what could it be? Up until now the car always started and ran great.


Could be the check valve in the pump, leaky injector, or leaky CSV. Pull off the air box and open the throttle so you can see inside the plenum, if it's full of gas, the CSV is probably leaking. Check your injectors by pulling them and pressurizing the system. If they're not leaking and the CSV is OK, then it's the check valve.

According to DD, it's really not a check valve, from a posting of his:

"The pump itself acts as a check valve, at least to some extent. There is no specific check valve built in. There is a spring-loaded valve, but its intent is to bleed off overly high pressure from inside the pump back to the tank."
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(pbanders @ Nov 19 2016, 02:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Gunn1 @ Nov 18 2016, 10:08 PM) *

After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter factory EFI) the fuel system builds pressure as it should when the key is turned to the on position, but once the system is up to pressure (about 40PSI on the gauge) the pump shuts off as it should but the pressure drops on the gauge. Car will start but barely. Used to build pressure then the pump would shut off but gauge would stay/hold pressure at right around 40PSI until car was started. Do I have a leak somewhere. there is no evidence or gas smell.

what could it be? Up until now the car always started and ran great.


Could be the check valve in the pump, leaky injector, or leaky CSV. Pull off the air box and open the throttle so you can see inside the plenum, if it's full of gas, the CSV is probably leaking. Check your injectors by pulling them and pressurizing the system. If they're not leaking and the CSV is OK, then it's the check valve.

According to DD, it's really not a check valve, from a posting of his:

"The pump itself acts as a check valve, at least to some extent. There is no specific check valve built in. There is a spring-loaded valve, but its intent is to bleed off overly high pressure from inside the pump back to the tank."


What is the CSV?
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Gunn1 @ Nov 19 2016, 03:25 PM) *

QUOTE(pbanders @ Nov 19 2016, 02:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Gunn1 @ Nov 18 2016, 10:08 PM) *

After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter factory EFI) the fuel system builds pressure as it should when the key is turned to the on position, but once the system is up to pressure (about 40PSI on the gauge) the pump shuts off as it should but the pressure drops on the gauge. Car will start but barely. Used to build pressure then the pump would shut off but gauge would stay/hold pressure at right around 40PSI until car was started. Do I have a leak somewhere. there is no evidence or gas smell.

what could it be? Up until now the car always started and ran great.


Could be the check valve in the pump, leaky injector, or leaky CSV. Pull off the air box and open the throttle so you can see inside the plenum, if it's full of gas, the CSV is probably leaking. Check your injectors by pulling them and pressurizing the system. If they're not leaking and the CSV is OK, then it's the check valve.

According to DD, it's really not a check valve, from a posting of his:

"The pump itself acts as a check valve, at least to some extent. There is no specific check valve built in. There is a spring-loaded valve, but its intent is to bleed off overly high pressure from inside the pump back to the tank."


What is the CSV?

Cold start valve. It is the 5th injector
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Gunn1   fuel pressure   Nov 18 2016, 11:08 PM
Rand   :ttiwwp: :stromberg: :stromberg: :stromberg: ...   Nov 18 2016, 11:58 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Admin! Clean up in the garage please.   Nov 19 2016, 01:00 AM
Gunn1   if you don't have a answer that's ok. I ca...   Nov 19 2016, 08:26 AM
pbanders   After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter ...   Nov 19 2016, 02:13 PM
Gunn1   After the car sat for a few months (74 2.0 liter...   Nov 19 2016, 02:25 PM
Bartlett 914   [quote name='pbanders' post='2424883' date='Nov 1...   Nov 19 2016, 02:35 PM
pbanders   Cold start valve. It is the 5th injector It...   Nov 19 2016, 02:56 PM
Gunn1   Thanks going to go out and give the suggestions a ...   Nov 19 2016, 03:24 PM
Gunn1   plenum is dry, no leaks at the injectors, going to...   Nov 20 2016, 05:19 PM
Gunn1   Got it running, after looking over everything I no...   Nov 26 2016, 06:44 PM
Rand   Dude, I wish you would give it a rest. Find anothe...   Nov 27 2016, 05:57 PM
porschetub   Dude, I wish you would give it a rest. Find anoth...   Nov 27 2016, 08:27 PM
The Cabinetmaker   By now everyone should know who he is. The questio...   Nov 28 2016, 07:40 AM
tomh   Quick question here, in the warm climates would it...   Nov 28 2016, 01:58 PM
jd74914   Quick question here, in the warm climates would i...   Nov 28 2016, 07:01 PM
Gunn1   Quick question here, in the warm climates would ...   Nov 28 2016, 07:22 PM
boxsterfan   Who is he/she? I guess I don't spend enough t...   Nov 28 2016, 02:20 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Who is he/she? I guess I don't spend enough ...   Nov 28 2016, 02:48 PM
Gunn1   The info in the post is ledgit. Explained exactly ...   Nov 28 2016, 05:28 PM
Rand   The info in the post is ledgit. Explained exactly...   Nov 28 2016, 08:00 PM
second wind   I am not banned....and for what? Just who the hel...   Nov 28 2016, 10:48 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Once a troll, well you know the rest.   Nov 29 2016, 07:18 AM
Gunn1   I have no affiliation with "Second Wind"   Nov 29 2016, 09:15 AM
The Cabinetmaker   So you do admit having multiple user names! Yo...   Nov 29 2016, 09:23 AM
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