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> 914-6 vs. 914-4...Your opinion
Joshporsche
post Oct 22 2004, 08:07 AM
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Hey guys! I'm sure this has been hashed out a million times here, but i was just wondering how it feels to have a powerful 914-6. I own a totaled 2.0 and it's stock. Wrecked it right after high school. (good tires are important!!!) Interesting enough-my friend owned a 1998 454 suburban and my 914 was exactly as fast as it all the way to 98 mph when the suburban's governor kicked in. Here's my question-how fast is a regular 914-6? What car (speed wise) does it compare to? I understand all 914-6's will be different-but i would like to know about yours. Let me know your thoughts!

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>>I understand all 914-6's will be different-but i would like to know about yours. Let me know your thoughts!

Brief story of why the 914/4 I bought is now a 914/6:

It was originally a 2.0L/4/webers when I bought it in 1986. Stupid me! I soon learned carbs are smog illegal on a 4cyl (still are! just don't have to test every other year). Within a year I realized I bought the biggest Lemon in California! Not smog legal, junk transmission, cheap paint, missing parts, ... I believe in PPI now. I also learned that 1st year there was such a thing as the 914/6.

The carb noise didn't bother me much, but not passing smog was a big problem. The fuel mileage wasn't that great either, compared with it's 6cyl replacement. The 2.0L/4 was real strange performance wise, some days it just SCREAMED, other days it couldn't get out of it's own way (barometric pressure?). Then I priced out how much it would cost to make the 4-banger smog legal. WOW! Change pistons, cam, find good FI system, fuel pump, etc., AIRC around $3500 in 1987. Comparable to a DIY /6 conversion.

If I hadn't done the six conversion, I wouldn't be driving a 914 today. Because of its uniqueness & great handling I went ahead with the /6 conversion.

I found a $2500 2.4L/CIS 6 with 90K miles on it. In 1987 it cost an extra $4187-$1250(4cly stuff sold) to swap the engines. The 2.4L/6 is still in the car today. It is my every-dry-day driver. I'm am genuinely astonished at how durable & reliable the 6cyl has been! The motor now has around 275,000 miles on it. Each time it has been smog checked, it passed easily. The valve guides are now showing signs they're tired, but the engine still pulls very hard. Hard enough to spin the clutch loose at 5k RPM (needs a clutch job). I think the carbed TIV engine would have required 2 rebuilds by now.

Since my 914 is my every-dry-day driver, i.e. I put ALOT of miles on it, pollution control is a high priority. I remember visiting 1960s LosAngeles as a kid where within a day my eyes would be burning & I couldn't see the San Gabriel Mtns.. Anyway, I'm thinking of replacing the 2.4L/CIS-6 with a 3.2L/DME-6 engine rather than rebuilding the 2.4L when the time comes. For about the cost of rebuilding the 2.4L I can source a stock 3.2L and gain 70hp, better gas mileage and more modern smog emission numbers thanks to it's computer controlled closed loop engine management system.

Moral of this story: get a PPI !

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Joshporsche   914-6 vs. 914-4...Your opinion   Oct 22 2004, 08:07 AM
skline   I dont have a 6 to tell you about, but I can tell ...   Oct 22 2004, 08:17 AM
Lawrence   Having owned both a stock 2.0/6 and 2.0/4... The 4...   Oct 22 2004, 08:21 AM
d914   I have a realatively stock 2.0-4 and a 2.5-6 that ...   Oct 22 2004, 08:23 AM
!   The stock six also has different gearing.....   Oct 22 2004, 08:31 AM
vortrex   if you are talking 0-60 and 1/4 times I think a st...   Oct 22 2004, 08:32 AM
Jake Raby   This is such a hot topic that I added a page on my...   Oct 22 2004, 08:33 AM
drew365   If you're talking about just for the street I ...   Oct 22 2004, 08:45 AM
Bleyseng   I don't find that much difference in a stock s...   Oct 22 2004, 08:59 AM
iamchappy   Both are great for different reasons, I drove a 2....   Oct 22 2004, 09:22 AM
boxstr   I have had a 3.0 six with 964 cams, webers,915 tra...   Oct 22 2004, 09:27 AM
Root_Werks   I have had stock 1.7's 2.0's, most of them...   Oct 22 2004, 10:05 AM
J P Stein   If you're gonna be happy with 150 hp, get one ...   Oct 22 2004, 01:27 PM
Jake Raby   JP, I even admit to the bias right there on the si...   Oct 22 2004, 03:09 PM
Brett W   Someone awhile back posted the dyno results for a ...   Oct 22 2004, 03:33 PM
914forme   Jake is that with KitCarlson Injection or can we e...   Oct 22 2004, 03:40 PM
Root_Werks   <...   Oct 22 2004, 03:47 PM
TimT  
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Hi_Fi_Guy   I am loving my Jake built 2270 TYPE IV. The power...   Oct 22 2004, 04:21 PM
Sammy   There aint nothing like a six. And........... I...   Oct 22 2004, 05:31 PM
Bleyseng   No matter what you do to a four its still just a b...   Oct 22 2004, 06:02 PM
Brett W   OK so YOU scored a couple of engines, what do you ...   Oct 22 2004, 06:19 PM
morphenspectra   research....research .....research. when i went in...   Oct 22 2004, 06:51 PM
Sammy   I drove a stock 1.7 liter 71 914 all through the e...   Oct 22 2004, 08:43 PM
!   What REALLY bugged his eyes out was the 110mph bra...   Oct 22 2004, 08:46 PM
trekkor   I'm with Root on this one. Deals are everywher...   Oct 22 2004, 09:13 PM
davidcalvin   I _love_ my 76 2.0L. It runs really well, is total...   Oct 22 2004, 09:32 PM
krk   My bits to add -- they are small ones tho. I drov...   Oct 23 2004, 12:08 AM
Jake Raby   I have assisted with two six conversions and done ...   Oct 23 2004, 07:57 AM
Eric_Shea   Gint and I just took my bone stock puny six for a ...   Oct 23 2004, 09:46 AM
mskala   I can't say anything about all the conversions...   Oct 23 2004, 01:12 PM
Jake Raby   So what about this sound is so different than a TI...   Oct 23 2004, 08:16 PM
TimT  
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jeff   4,6,8,10,Rotary,Ford flathead??Hampster on wheel ?...   Oct 23 2004, 08:48 PM
trekkor   It's funny, in the game Need for Speed, Porsch...   Oct 23 2004, 09:01 PM
bob91403   As I understand it, a stock 2.0L 4 has an advantag...   Oct 23 2004, 09:26 PM
trekkor   If i remember correctly, the stock 2.0 FOUR makes ...   Oct 23 2004, 09:52 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Oct 23 2004, 09:55 PM
trekkor   Brad was right, 914club is better than TV. :woohoo...   Oct 23 2004, 10:41 PM
VegasRacer   my 2 ¢ worth My first teener was a stock 1.8....   Oct 23 2004, 10:47 PM
Jake Raby   I guess that most of you guys that have never expe...   Oct 23 2004, 11:31 PM
SGB   I love that type IV sound! With the valves se...   Oct 23 2004, 11:42 PM
9146986   <...   Oct 24 2004, 09:00 AM
morgan_harwell   >>I understand all 914-6's will be different-b...   Oct 24 2004, 11:49 AM
cdn914   I have owned a stock 914-6 for about 16 years, cur...   Oct 24 2004, 01:20 PM
Root_Werks   One thing I really like about the 914Club is that ...   Oct 25 2004, 09:07 AM
Jake Raby   I still want to know what is so different about th...   Oct 25 2004, 10:19 AM
Randal  
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Root_Werks   ...   Oct 25 2004, 11:23 AM
Bleyseng   Rusty, its seems Roots biggest savings in the moto...   Oct 25 2004, 11:32 AM
Lawrence   ...   Oct 25 2004, 12:01 PM
Root_Werks   ...   Oct 25 2004, 12:05 PM
Root_Werks   <...   Oct 25 2004, 12:08 PM
Joshporsche   Thanks for all your input!! Thinking back...   Oct 25 2004, 12:29 PM
Cloudbuster   Here's me. '75 with a 2.0 four. Do I go ...   Oct 25 2004, 12:51 PM
J P Stein     Oct 25 2004, 04:02 PM
Sammy   I'm with Root werks on this one. A trained m...   Oct 25 2004, 04:27 PM
trekkor   Root has been good to us. :clap: KT   Oct 25 2004, 08:11 PM
9146986   As far as the engine choice, Porsche developed a k...   Oct 25 2004, 09:48 PM
wheelo   "The Boxter's are coming" ...   Oct 26 2004, 01:46 AM
Bleyseng   Well, thats true also once they get into the ...   Oct 26 2004, 07:33 AM
Root_Werks   :worship: Thanks for the kind words (those who ga...   Oct 26 2004, 08:26 AM
Bleyseng   Sponsor a DynoDay and burgerfeed Dan! I like s...   Oct 26 2004, 09:55 AM
Root_Werks   The last one I did was a part 2 of a tour/tech ses...   Oct 26 2004, 11:29 AM
Eric_Shea  
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bob91403   Four works. Why stop at six, go to eight, hell, go...   Oct 29 2004, 09:58 AM
Sammy   I'm not bagging on type 4s at all, but saying ...   Oct 29 2004, 01:34 PM
d914   [I'll have the best four banger out there. Ins...   Oct 29 2004, 03:14 PM
9146986   ...   Oct 29 2004, 04:05 PM
Mueller   Perry, it's called "Napoleon complex"...those ...   Oct 29 2004, 04:11 PM
Series9   Quick! Pick one! Yeah, that's what I...   Oct 29 2004, 04:58 PM
Bleyseng   I'll take a six any day and you can take that ...   Oct 29 2004, 05:57 PM
Eric_Shea   Six is unreliable vs. a four? Mine's never be...   Oct 30 2004, 03:46 PM


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