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Money and motor options, What is a realistic budget and parts list |
thelogo |
Mar 13 2017, 09:50 PM
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1st off the engine im going for in no way needs to
Be optimised for performance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) What is the best combo for just cool reliable running In socal heat . Im trying to stay clear of d jet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) So carbs or i like cb performance f.i kit but know little actually about it . What Crank Pistons Rods Cam Cyclinder s Fuel delivery Etc should i be putting together and what kinda budget windfall Should i be prepared for . I know its a sickness but cant be that expensive? I will use a machine shop to build the motor That have extensive experience with type 4 So i know thats gonna cost me major $ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Talk to me about proven engine combinatios (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) |
thelogo |
Mar 14 2017, 04:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
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Sound advice d.d Im happy with a 1.7 Not happy with djet . |
Mueller |
Mar 14 2017, 04:59 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Sound advice d.d Im happy with a 1.7 Not happy with djet . Could be operator error (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any fuel system be it a single carb or even a $5,000 Motec system can give you fits if not in tip top shape and if you don't know how to work on it, you could spend $10K on a new motor with modern EFI or dual carbs and be miserable if not tuned correctly or you miss a simple vacuum line. I'd go thru all the basic troubleshooting of the FI and ignition 1st as well as a full tune up. |
thelogo |
Mar 14 2017, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
[quote name='Mueller' date='Mar 14 2017, 03:59 PM' post='2464197']
[quote name='thelogo' post='2464191' date='Mar 14 2017, 03:41 PM'] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Sound advice d.d Im happy with a 1.7 Not happy with djet . [/quote] Could be operator error (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any fuel system be it a single carb How do you fuck up a single carb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) |
Mike D. |
Mar 14 2017, 07:03 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
You don't, it fucks you up. They are POS. And lose the mechanic that won't work on your car. Take it to Leamon in Tajunga. PM him, he's HeelToe914 |
thelogo |
Mar 14 2017, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
You don't, it fucks you up. They are POS. And lose the mechanic that won't work on your car. Take it to Leamon in Tajunga. PM him, he's HeelToe914 Leamon is the coolest guy ever And yeh im sure he could help And the guy always seem to find the great cars too And my mechanic does a great job on the car But he told me . Way back when i got the car That the car was running well and he didnt really Touch the injection and every thing seems fine He recommended that as long as its all good to Run the djet And if it becomes a issue install webers |
struckn |
Mar 16 2017, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 9-November 11 From: South Central York Pennsyvania Member No.: 13,764 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
[quote name='thelogo' date='Mar 14 2017, 08:00 PM' post='2464289']
[quote name='Mike D.' post='2464240' date='Mar 14 2017, 06:03 PM'] [quote name='thelogo' post='2464233' date='Mar 14 2017, 05:42 PM'] How do you fuck up a single carb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) [/quote] You don't, it fucks you up. They are POS. And lose the mechanic that won't work on your car. Alright I have to respond to the question above. Here again is my Video of my Single Weber 1.8 with the correct Cam and attention to the carb floats adjustments done by Tony at Translog GT to make it run right. https://youtu.be/H4t0M2wrhu8 Doug |
Mueller |
Mar 16 2017, 03:50 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
[quote name='struckn' date='Mar 16 2017, 12:27 PM' post='2464773']
[quote name='thelogo' date='Mar 14 2017, 08:00 PM' post='2464289'] [quote name='Mike D.' post='2464240' date='Mar 14 2017, 06:03 PM'] [quote name='thelogo' post='2464233' date='Mar 14 2017, 05:42 PM'] How do you fuck up a single carb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) [/quote] You don't, it fucks you up. They are POS. And lose the mechanic that won't work on your car. Alright I have to respond to the question above. Here again is my Video of my Single Weber 1.8 with the correct Cam and attention to the carb floats adjustments done by Tony at Translog GT to make it run right. https://youtu.be/H4t0M2wrhu8 Doug [/quote] It has been proven they "work" but why not go the extra step for just few hundred dollars more to go twin carb which is proven to work better? If the OP just wants a running car and doesn't mind a compromise the single carb can "work". Will he be happy six month later wondering if it would be improved upon? Maybe, maybe not. thelogo, The problem that arises from adapting fuel injection from other model vehicles is the tuning. The volumetric efficiency and spark timing curves will be different. Some you can modify easily and others you won't be able to change anything so you run the risk of too lean or too rich as well as too far advanced in timing. Adapting FI from another vehicle is one of those things that if you have to ask if it can be done, it is not a job for you or for your mechanic unless you have deep pockets. LJet can be had for free to a few hundred dollars. I got mine for free, I just had to pay shipping. However just like DJet, if you are not 100% familiar with it and not everything is in tip top shape it will give you fits. Very simple, plenty of online resources that describe how it operates and what is related to what on the system. (same goes for Djet) |
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