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| iankarr |
Mar 26 2017, 09:25 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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Hi Guys,
So...my (new to me) 74 2.0 FI was idling great and running pretty well, except after warm it would occasionally experience a loss of power at about 3000K. Last weekend I took the dizzy out to clean and lube the plates. Also installed a pertronix and flame thrower coil. Started it up and ran like crap and uber rich. Then realized I forgot to connect the MPS hose. duh. Did that and it started up ok. It was late, so I left the car till this weekend to get the timing dialed in. OK, so I start it today and hear this tapping racket and the engine feels like it's only running on 3 cylinders. Pulled plug wires one at a time, and it seems all are contributing. Pulled the valve covers to see if that's where the racket was coming from and figured it was a good idea to make sure everything was properly adjusted anyway. Nothing LOOKS weird, but if I pull backwards on the #2 intake rocker, it will move about 1/4" towards me. Let it go and it returns back to contacting the valve stem. I know it isn't normal, but before I tear into things, I thought I'd check with the brain trust.Bent rod? Beginnings of dropped valve? From what I can tell, the POs didn't drive this car much, so I wouldn't be surprised that all this new activity is exposing weaknesses.... Thanks! |
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| iankarr |
Mar 26 2017, 03:46 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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Just checked the #2 exhaust lifter with the boroscope (cause I have every tool known to man. My garage looks like China.) it's also hydraulic.
The pushrods are magnetic,so I assume they're chromoly. But they look normal sized. I thought hydraulic rods were fatter? Could this be another episode in the adventures of DAPO??? Here's a pic of the #2 rocker assembly, but the rest look like this too. My yellow car had a McMark-built 2056, which had some pretty big differences...so I don't know what's "normal" for a "stock" 2.0. But I have read that spring rings like the ones on this rocker assembly are usually paired with hydraulic lifters...is that correct? Now that the hydraulic cat is out of the bag, I def want to switch back over to solid. Problem is I don't know if the cam was changed and/or if it will work with solid. Any suggestions on how to change it are appreciated... Will start another thread with specifics. Thanks! ![]() |
| rgalla9146 |
Mar 26 2017, 05:04 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,830 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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Just checked the #2 exhaust lifter with the boroscope (cause I have every tool known to man. My garage looks like China.) it's also hydraulic. The pushrods are magnetic,so I assume they're chromoly. But they look normal sized. I thought hydraulic rods were fatter? Could this be another episode in the adventures of DAPO??? Previous owner had no interest in hitting redline.....and less interest in regular valve adjustments. Hydraulics ! Voila ! Ian, as an aside I have a '89 VW Westy that has hydraulics. If it sits for a few weeks they leak down and then take a while (1/2 hr) to pump up. This is especially true in warmer weather. I'll renew them this summer. Until you decide what course to take replace the oil w/ Shell Rotella 20w50 or similar. You can also bleed the lifter before re-installing it. Immerse it in oil and pump it with the pushrod until it becomes harder....er stiffer...er.... less springy. Never did it myself but heard of it. |
cuddyk This can't be good. Mar 26 2017, 09:25 AM
Tbrown4x4 Which direction are you pulling it? Are you slidin... Mar 26 2017, 09:29 AM
cuddyk Away from the valve, towards me. None of the other... Mar 26 2017, 09:33 AM
Krieger A long time ago I had a car with 2.0 heads that ov... Mar 26 2017, 09:47 AM
r_towle Have you considered you may have hydraulic lifters... Mar 26 2017, 10:53 AM
stugray
....some of them you cannot totally remove the tu... Mar 26 2017, 11:01 AM
r_towle Btw, that head is way to clean.... Mar 26 2017, 10:57 AM
Tbrown4x4 I was thinking hydraulic lifters too. There is a w... Mar 26 2017, 10:57 AM
Mikey914 Well if you have 1/4" i would suspect that yo... Mar 26 2017, 11:09 AM
r_towle
Well if you have 1/4" i would suspect that y... Mar 26 2017, 11:22 AM
cuddyk Thanks guys.
Unfortunately this car came with no ... Mar 26 2017, 11:28 AM
injunmort mine made a similar intermittent racket. the engin... Mar 26 2017, 11:42 AM
Mark Henry Springing back like that is odd and I'm wonder... Mar 26 2017, 12:16 PM
rgalla9146 There is no spring in a 2.0 lifter.
As has been ... Mar 26 2017, 12:16 PM
zipedadoo What if the cam lobe was gone for that valve? Prob... Mar 26 2017, 12:40 PM
cuddyk Engine code stamp looks normal. And it appears the... Mar 26 2017, 12:54 PM
Tbrown4x4 You're this deep. I would pull the tube and fi... Mar 26 2017, 01:08 PM
cuddyk
You're this deep. I would pull the tube and f... Mar 26 2017, 01:21 PM
Tbrown4x4 I would switch to solid myself. I don't have a... Mar 26 2017, 01:32 PM
rgalla9146 Maybe it's just that one ?.....best to check .... Mar 26 2017, 02:28 PM
r_towle It could be fine if you let the oil get warm and f... Mar 26 2017, 05:16 PM
cgnj CrMO for sure, Cam any ones guess. I"d go to ... Mar 26 2017, 05:25 PM
cuddyk Thanks guys. Doing some research on conversion to ... Mar 26 2017, 07:03 PM
Mark Henry You absolutely have to change the cam to go to sol... Mar 27 2017, 12:03 AM
Tbrown4x4 I was more worried about new lifters on an old cam... Mar 27 2017, 04:36 AM
cuddyk Much appreciated, World.
If this is a cam change ... Mar 27 2017, 07:27 AM
cuddyk Just a quick update...
Turns out the rough runnin... Apr 1 2017, 11:22 AM![]() ![]() |
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