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| larryM |
Jul 5 2017, 11:13 AM
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just got Gooding's 914 book (Enthusiast's Guide, 2016), which has some interesting historical stuff on the 916 & GT cars;
it prompts this question: (which probably requires the knowledge of you few 914 folks with Germany roots or current contacts to those who worked at Zuffenhausen in the '69-71 time period) When did the factory begin development of the 916 variant? i.e., start on the design of the different body components & chassis improvements, and decide on the powertrain, etc?? and when were the first prototyped "new" components begun & finished for trial fit on the the prototype chassis? (and where were they made? (?-Werks-1? - or ?) Who was responsible for the decision to do the 11 finished cars for the Paris show (October 1971)? (edit update: looking at http://916.dingianni.org/Info/, we see that 4 916s were finished & gone to new owners prior to that Paris Show date, so Gooding's statement is a bit misleading) and who decided to kill 'em? inquiring minds want to know TIA |
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| gms |
Jul 6 2017, 10:56 PM
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It was Ferdinand Piëch early in 1971, he is one of the most underrated members of the family.
One popular misconception is that they were reject 914/4 bodies, this is NOT true the Karmann numbers indicate that they were late 1971 914/6 chassis. The Prototype (Brutus) was just restored at AA with help from Steve Gaglione. |
| Tom_T |
Jul 7 2017, 01:02 PM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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It was Ferdinand Piëch early in 1971, he is one of the most underrated members of the family. One popular misconception is that they were reject 914/4 bodies, this is NOT true the Karmann numbers indicate that they were late 1971 914/6 chassis. The Prototype (Brutus) was just restored at AA with help from Steve Gaglione. Hey Glen, Didn't they recently show "Brutus" at Amelia earlier this year or 2016? I thought I read somewhere that it won some award at Amelia. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) IIRC they were intended to be priced higher than the $12-14K noted above - at $16000 in 1973 dollars, which was maybe around $250,000 today with inflation - which would be a hard sell for a top dog Boxster/Cayman even today. The 916s did have all leather interior & quite a few other upgrades over a fully optioned 914-6 - beyond just the engine & chassis improvements, but as noted above - it competed with their top dawg 911S, & may have even out-sold them if given the chance - assuming they could squelch the NARP tag! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
larryM 916 development question Jul 5 2017, 11:13 AM
SirAndy Well, the first 916 had a regular 914-6 VIN which ... Jul 5 2017, 11:27 AM
larryM OK - so the 916 parts were clearly done & avai... Jul 5 2017, 04:31 PM
Tom_T Interesting questions Larry.
I look forward to se... Jul 5 2017, 11:33 AM
larryM
Interesting questions Larry.
IIRC the welded ste... Jul 5 2017, 03:13 PM
mepstein Larry - you have a very cool car. Jul 5 2017, 03:28 PM
Tom_T Larry,
The folks who own (owned) any of those 916... Jul 5 2017, 03:40 PM
carr914
Interesting questions Larry.
IIRC the welded st... Jul 5 2017, 07:26 PM
larryM
Here are Two Pictures of a Factory Brace (been ch... Jul 5 2017, 09:21 PM
SirAndy
Here are Two Pictures of a Factory Brace (been c... Jul 5 2017, 09:30 PM
larryM
Installing the roof brace on a GT at Porsche ...
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larryM the 914 in general was "Piëch's baby... Jul 5 2017, 09:16 PM
eitnurg
That 'A-pillar brace' is of interest. An... Jul 6 2017, 12:20 AM
SKL1 First issue of 000 had a long article on the two 9... Jul 6 2017, 12:43 AM
gulf908 Get the second Carrera RS book
It has a good sized... Jul 6 2017, 01:29 AM
larryM ah, i never figured a book on 911 RS's would b... Jul 6 2017, 09:37 PM
Racer Price killed the 916 from a marketing side - it wo... Jul 6 2017, 03:58 PM
Gustl The 916s did have all leather interior
some have ... Jul 7 2017, 02:59 PM

Tom_T
The 916s did have all leather interior
some have... Jul 7 2017, 04:18 PM

Gustl Wasn't that leather interiors with fabric seat... Jul 8 2017, 01:02 AM

Tom_T
[quote name='Tom_T' post='2503980' date='Jul 7 20... Jul 8 2017, 10:23 AM
mepstein
It was Ferdinand Piëch early in 1971, he is one... Jul 7 2017, 04:19 PM

Tom_T
[quote name='Tom_T' post='2503899' date='Jul 7 20... Jul 7 2017, 04:53 PM

Tom_T
[quote name='mepstein' post='2503984' date='Jul 7... Jul 8 2017, 11:17 AM
SirAndy at $16000 in 1973 dollars, which was maybe ar... Jul 7 2017, 06:22 PM
Tom_T
at $16000 in 1973 dollars, which was maybe a... Jul 7 2017, 08:36 PM
SirAndy
This is interesting, i wonder if the original m... Jul 7 2017, 10:16 AM
Racer Don't forget... the DM was getting less and le... Jul 7 2017, 05:17 PM
JmuRiz
Don't forget... the DM was getting less and l... Jul 7 2017, 07:25 PM
burton73 Will someone please tell the story of this 916 in ... Jul 8 2017, 12:03 PM![]() ![]() |
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