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post Nov 14 2016, 11:19 AM
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Nearly finished with the second incarnation of my air conditioning air box. Stock location, stock vents, stock fan, and no body mods.

This is the continuation of the A/C compressor project thread.


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post Jul 13 2017, 08:56 AM
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Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compressor by itself. Just have to build the evaporator. The condenser is the easy part.
http://www.classicretrofit.com/electrocool...ressor-and-ecu/
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Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compressor by itself. Just have to build the evaporator. The condenser is the easy part.
http://www.classicretrofit.com/electrocool...ressor-and-ecu/

Yikes, $2300 US. Too rich for my blood.
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post Jul 13 2017, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Jul 13 2017, 07:56 AM) *

Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compressor by itself. Just have to build the evaporator. The condenser is the easy part.
http://www.classicretrofit.com/electrocool...ressor-and-ecu/

Yikes, $2300 US. Too rich for my blood.


I did some homework on this. The Benling compressor is $595.00 wholesale. Street price is anywhere from $995.00 to $1200.00. It has 3 speeds, 40 amp, 60 amp and around 90 amps. Classic retrofit designed a circuit board that selects the speeds automatically based on battery drain, plus has an easy to use button versus the three speed switch. He put allot of R&D in his kit and has to make a profit.
AC is not cheap no matter which way you go.
I have not tried any of the above. Just gathering information.
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QUOTE(Steve @ Jul 13 2017, 05:53 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Jul 13 2017, 08:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Jul 13 2017, 07:56 AM) *

Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compressor by itself. Just have to build the evaporator. The condenser is the easy part.
http://www.classicretrofit.com/electrocool...ressor-and-ecu/

Yikes, $2300 US. Too rich for my blood.


I did some homework on this. The Benling compressor is $595.00 wholesale. Street price is anywhere from $995.00 to $1200.00. It has 3 speeds, 40 amp, 60 amp and around 90 amps. Classic retrofit designed a circuit board that selects the speeds automatically based on battery drain, plus has an easy to use button versus the three speed switch. He put allot of R&D in his kit and has to make a profit.
AC is not cheap no matter which way you go.
I have not tried any of the above. Just gathering information.


^ Almost. The 3 speed compressor (even on the lowest speed) will eventually flatten the battery unless you can guarantee > 60A at idle which is near impossible on a standard alternator. On a hot day, the current on the low speed is at least 50A and you need to run the condenser fan (8A) and the blower fan (10A). Been there, done that (2 years ago now)

Anyhow, we use the variable speed compressor. Our bespoke ECU regulates the compressor speed based on a number of factors including the battery voltage, current draw, demanded temperature, actual cabin temperature. evaporator temperature. This gives climate control to within +/- 1 degree C. Don't forget the safety either. We have high and low current protection, an external contactor relay which guarantees isolation of the high current cable.

We have sense lines that can defeat or derate the compressor speed based on whether other accessories are switched on. There are also multiple guarding parameters (e.g. standby and idle timers) that can be configured via USB cable or smartphone. The control is a combined fuzzy logic / PID system. We have 1000's of hours R&D in the ECU and control software alone.

You get the compressor and mounting bracket, a full wiring harness, control switch and loom, contractor relay, the ECU and software updates for life. We are working on a smartphone app at the moment.






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McMark   914 Air Conditioning   Nov 14 2016, 11:19 AM
timothy_nd28   Thank you! :worship:   Nov 14 2016, 11:26 AM
rfinegan   Woot...look'n GOOD   Nov 14 2016, 11:32 AM
JmuRiz   WOW, this and 914/6 heaterboxes. You guys are spe...   Nov 14 2016, 12:09 PM
dlee6204   Awesome! :thumbsup: Is there any concern wit...   Nov 14 2016, 12:30 PM
McMark   Awesome! :thumbsup: Is there any concern wi...   Nov 14 2016, 01:35 PM
Steve   Is there an option to recirculate the air through ...   Nov 14 2016, 02:38 PM
timothy_nd28   Also, could you make it big enough to stuff a heat...   Nov 14 2016, 04:17 PM
76-914   Also, could you make it big enough to stuff a hea...   Nov 14 2016, 07:28 PM
McMark   Also, could you make it big enough to stuff a hea...   Nov 15 2016, 07:45 AM
Luke M   Hey Mark, I know you're working on a a/c comp...   Nov 15 2016, 01:23 PM
Steve   Hey Mark, I know you're working on a a/c com...   Nov 15 2016, 08:16 PM
db9146   If you look carefully at the photo of the engine i...   Nov 15 2016, 10:28 PM
Steve   There's a better picture of the engine compart...   Nov 16 2016, 12:02 AM
sixnotfour   that's a really ingenious setup, I like the el...   Nov 16 2016, 12:33 AM
JmuRiz   There's a guy on the bird board from the UK th...   Nov 16 2016, 07:55 AM
Steve   The guy from the U.K. Is developing an electric sy...   Nov 16 2016, 04:36 PM
rgalla9146   What a great idea. It's the only place on a...   Nov 16 2016, 07:31 PM
JmuRiz   MFI pump drive :confused:   Nov 16 2016, 08:50 PM
rgalla9146   MFI pump drive :confused: MFI is not gonna h...   Nov 17 2016, 07:44 AM
bandjoey   $2,000 for the electric compressor + a beefed...   Nov 17 2016, 01:58 PM
Steve   $2,000 for the electric compressor + a beefe...   Nov 17 2016, 02:07 PM
rgalla9146   $2,000 for the electric compressor + a beef...   Nov 17 2016, 05:43 PM
Steve   I have a 3.2 motor. Stock alternator is around 95...   Nov 17 2016, 07:06 PM
Mowog4   I am looking for suggestions on the cleanest way t...   Dec 19 2016, 07:52 PM
db9146   Hey McMark, Any update on this? Its gotten hot a...   Jul 3 2017, 08:44 AM
McMark   Done. Installed and gone. Worked great in the sh...   Jul 3 2017, 10:08 AM
Steve   Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compressor...   Jul 13 2017, 08:56 AM
76-914   Classic Retrofit now sells the electric compresso...   Jul 13 2017, 09:27 AM
Steve   [quote name='Steve' post='2505934' date='Jul 13 2...   Jul 13 2017, 10:53 AM
mepstein   [quote name='Steve' post='2505934' date='Jul 13 ...   Jul 13 2017, 11:11 AM
Jonny Retrofit   [quote name='Steve' post='2505934' date='Jul 13 ...   Jul 13 2017, 12:01 PM
db9146   "Don't know if the owner's had a chan...   Jul 13 2017, 10:47 AM
mepstein   Here’s are 2nd electric a/c install. Customer li...   Feb 22 2018, 03:59 PM


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