OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
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OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
Jeroen |
Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
A truely sad day for all Dutch
Today movie maker, columnist and chain-smoker Theo van Gogh was murdered He was known and feared for his strong critizism and his blunt and harsh statements that he spewed when ever he got the chance. Often shocking his "opponenents" Van Gogh had a very stong opinion about the way muslims-funtamentalists suppress women and how they condem gays. In an ultimate attempt to shut him up, he was brutally excecuted in Amsterdam this morning. He was shot 6 times and then a letter was pinned to his dead body with 2 knives The killer was captured after a shoot-out with the police. He is an immigrant from Marocco and aparently a muslim-extremist. Van Gogh paid the ultimate price for what he believed in the most: the freedom of speech |
bob91403 |
Nov 3 2004, 03:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
There are examples of religious zealots and extremists in just about every religion in history. More people have died in the name of god than I can believe. In this modern world I find it very difficult to understand any religion that prefers to remain in the dark ages. Islam had very barbaric beginings, so did catholicism. Most have moved past this "kill them to save them" reasoning. Even the catholic church took it's sweet time about admiting the world was not flat. These eastern cultures who don't wish to be "westernised" are just trying to hold on to values of oppression and inequality. When they start to make changes that lift their people up to a better way of life, instead of beating them down, I will respect them. If they cannot, or refuse to, change, with the rest of the world, on the rights and freedoms of their own people, they do not deserve anyone's respect. If they can not, or will not, change, they deserve to be vanquished and doomed to the pages of history, while the rest of the world moves forward. Let them die as martyrs for their religion, but be killed in the name of liberty, and freedom. Poor ignorant bastards deserve it.
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