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Jeroen
post Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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A truely sad day for all Dutch
Today movie maker, columnist and chain-smoker Theo van Gogh was murdered

He was known and feared for his strong critizism and his blunt and harsh statements that he spewed when ever he got the chance. Often shocking his "opponenents"
Van Gogh had a very stong opinion about the way muslims-funtamentalists suppress women and how they condem gays.

In an ultimate attempt to shut him up, he was brutally excecuted in Amsterdam this morning. He was shot 6 times and then a letter was pinned to his dead body with 2 knives

The killer was captured after a shoot-out with the police. He is an immigrant from Marocco and aparently a muslim-extremist.

Van Gogh paid the ultimate price for what he believed in the most: the freedom of speech
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post Nov 3 2004, 09:52 PM
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"Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons in the past is repeatedly cited by the US and British governments as justification for his removal from power now. But just what was their response to his use of poison gas against Iranian troops and Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s? Far from condemning his actions, they stepped up their support for Baghdad. One of the most damning revelations to come out of the Scott inquiry into the arms-to-Iraq affair was the British government's secret decision to supply Saddam with even more weapons-related equipment after he shelled the Kurdish town of Halabja in March 1988 with gas bombs, killing an estimated 5,000 civilians and maiming thousands more. Saddam said he had punished the Kurds for "collaboration" after the town had been successfully attacked by Iran. The weapons were produced with German-supplied chemicals.

This cynicism and hypocrisy was matched only by the US. Soon after the attack, Washington approved the export to Iraq of virus cultures and a $1bn contract to design and build a petrochemical plant the Iraqis planned to use to produce mustard gas. And while the Reagan administration condemned the use of chemical weapons during the eight-year Iraq-Iran war, US officers were secretly supplying Iraqi generals with bomb-damage assessments and detailed information on Iranian troop deployments.
"The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern," Walter Lang, a former senior US defense intelligence officer, told the New York Times this week. Washington was worried about the threat of Iran spreading its Islamic revolution to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia."
Richard Norton-Taylor
Wednesday August 21, 2002
The Guardian

So we are going to eliminate all the people that suppport and fund terrorists...then when do the bombs start falling here, or London, or Berlin?
If you truly believe that we should stamp out terrorism, then do your patriotic duty and keep a close eye on what your elected officials are doing. Vote, email them, and let them know what you think about the direction our nation is heading in and don't let them tell you that they are doing something that is in our "best interest" without knowing all the facts.

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Jeroen   OT: Dutch democracy compromised...   Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
Bleyseng   Well that is bad news for all who speak out. We ha...   Nov 2 2004, 09:02 AM
914GT   Sorry to hear about that. Sad times we're liv...   Nov 2 2004, 10:05 AM
SLITS   It's Democracy - when someone doesn't get ...   Nov 2 2004, 10:55 AM
ThinAir914   This is very sad indeed. I remember a few years a...   Nov 2 2004, 11:09 AM
SLITS   Ernie, ya better take another good look at history...   Nov 2 2004, 11:18 AM
ThinAir914   I don't blame Americans, but from what I under...   Nov 2 2004, 11:35 AM
SLITS   Not pikin' on ya -   Nov 2 2004, 11:53 AM
Cloudbuster     Nov 2 2004, 11:56 AM
fiid     Nov 2 2004, 12:30 PM
Howard     Nov 2 2004, 12:58 PM
SLITS   And our brothers to the South........................   Nov 2 2004, 01:11 PM
Mrs. K   :o That really bites! Sorry to hear about that...   Nov 2 2004, 03:41 PM
Bleyseng   The word here from my two Dutchies is that the Isl...   Nov 2 2004, 03:48 PM
Jeroen   It's always hard to make comparisons, but Van ...   Nov 2 2004, 04:00 PM
redshift   Boy, I hate to make my first post back an answer t...   Nov 2 2004, 04:05 PM
seanery   wasuup miles   Nov 2 2004, 04:07 PM
SLITS     Nov 2 2004, 04:30 PM
SirAndy     Nov 2 2004, 04:33 PM
redshift   hehe GAME OVER DO...   Nov 2 2004, 04:37 PM
mikey   I read about Theo this morning. He made a film abo...   Nov 2 2004, 10:41 PM
rick 918-S   My sincerest condolences for you and your country....   Nov 2 2004, 11:43 PM
Dr Evil  
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bob91403   There are examples of religious zealots and extrem...   Nov 3 2004, 03:51 AM
Walter     Nov 3 2004, 07:24 AM
914GT   Sure would help if these 'gentle and deeply ca...   Nov 3 2004, 09:08 AM
Bleyseng   These two guys should be send to Texas so that cou...   Nov 3 2004, 09:17 AM
Jeroen  
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914GT   Cite an example of public condemnation of the behe...   Nov 3 2004, 09:24 AM
dmenche914   Watch out backwards women beating islamic pigs. G...   Nov 3 2004, 10:02 AM
redshift   I have no stomach for Islamic extremist, and I am ...   Nov 3 2004, 11:11 AM
marankie   Hello Jeroen, Unfortunately even in tolerant Holla...   Nov 3 2004, 02:45 PM
MarkV   The Dutch didn't waste any time arresting the ...   Nov 3 2004, 02:55 PM
SirAndy   <...   Nov 3 2004, 03:10 PM
type11969     Nov 3 2004, 03:19 PM
Jeroen   Martin, your absolutely right Stoopid thing is......   Nov 3 2004, 03:20 PM
nebreitling   chris: it's almost as if you're saying th...   Nov 3 2004, 03:29 PM
type11969   ...   Nov 3 2004, 08:39 PM
74GoKart   "Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons in t...   Nov 3 2004, 09:52 PM
bob91403   Georgey boy only went into Iraq to clean up the me...   Nov 3 2004, 10:38 PM
Bleyseng   With Libya, 20 years of International sanctions ha...   Nov 3 2004, 11:15 PM
bob91403   Gee, their timing was just a coincidence. Twenty y...   Nov 3 2004, 11:34 PM
Elliot Cannon   So we're successful in establishing a democrat...   Nov 4 2004, 12:20 AM
Jeroen   I honestly don't understand why so many of you...   Nov 4 2004, 06:30 AM
type11969   Sorry I posted my rant before guys, I've gotte...   Nov 4 2004, 06:56 AM
Bleyseng   Iraq will be a puppet country like Japan and West ...   Nov 4 2004, 09:08 AM
redshift   Hey folks.. most of you know how I feel. :) See,...   Nov 4 2004, 09:21 AM
Jeroen   I find it was alarming that so many Bush voters vo...   Nov 4 2004, 09:28 AM
redshift   You've just completely mischaracterized our re...   Nov 4 2004, 09:39 AM
Jeroen   I guess you're right... I never knew over 50% ...   Nov 4 2004, 09:50 AM
redshift   They aren't. :) I have a mantra, "If I can...   Nov 4 2004, 09:55 AM
ClayPerrine   I would post my opinion here.. .but I have a very ...   Nov 4 2004, 09:57 AM
ThinAir914     Nov 4 2004, 10:17 AM
SLITS   Never understood why everyone gets pissed off - th...   Nov 4 2004, 10:17 AM
Jeroen   <...   Nov 4 2004, 10:21 AM
redshift     Nov 4 2004, 10:24 AM
!   Geez....politics..... Ok....Bush Senior was an ou...   Nov 4 2004, 10:30 AM
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!   Yeah well....my Hisory Prof actually blamed it all...   Nov 4 2004, 10:52 AM
redshift   As well he should! 'Welcome to Paris...   Nov 4 2004, 10:55 AM
SirAndy     Nov 4 2004, 11:06 AM
SirAndy   <...   Nov 4 2004, 11:16 AM
redshift   Nah.. M   Nov 4 2004, 11:17 AM
dmenche914   Ok we are in it now. We still have to win the "pe...   Nov 4 2004, 11:28 AM
!   Whoa.....cool yer Jets Bubba...... All I stated w...   Nov 4 2004, 11:36 AM
dmenche914   Sir Andy< I see you are still out there, any sugge...   Nov 4 2004, 11:41 AM
redshift   I am a hunter/gatherer. I want to hunt terrorists...   Nov 4 2004, 11:47 AM
!   Of course they were/are evil.....as to bashing Bus...   Nov 4 2004, 11:51 AM
dmenche914   mike Z, there is no election year dirty tricks he...   Nov 4 2004, 12:05 PM
ThinAir914     Nov 4 2004, 12:13 PM
type11969   Someone will say, going into Iraq was not validate...   Nov 4 2004, 12:23 PM
!   Ah fuck it.....it's time for a beer and a shot...   Nov 4 2004, 12:23 PM
914GT   Before locking the thread, here are a couple web s...   Nov 4 2004, 12:24 PM
ThinAir914   I agree that what I come to 914World.com for is th...   Nov 4 2004, 01:04 PM
Bleyseng   I will be nice too as this is supposed to be like ...   Nov 4 2004, 01:32 PM
SirAndy     Nov 4 2004, 02:48 PM
dmenche914   And give up all our rights to an UN??? The big fi...   Nov 4 2004, 02:57 PM
dmenche914   Sir Andy, we did supply stuff a long time ago to s...   Nov 4 2004, 03:18 PM
redshift   If it keeps my grass green, I am willing to test e...   Nov 4 2004, 03:32 PM
Jenny   <...   Nov 4 2004, 03:56 PM
Bleyseng   The US has made it a policy to support dictators o...   Nov 4 2004, 04:53 PM
fiid   This board is very representative of this country....   Nov 4 2004, 04:55 PM
fiid   Oh yeah. I lost the argument about allowing polit...   Nov 4 2004, 04:56 PM
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redshift   hehe I don't hate you guys, at all. Good luck ...   Nov 4 2004, 05:01 PM
fiid   I personally agree with you, but I believe it was ...   Nov 4 2004, 05:02 PM
ThinAir914   <...   Nov 4 2004, 05:03 PM
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