OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
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OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
Jeroen |
Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
A truely sad day for all Dutch
Today movie maker, columnist and chain-smoker Theo van Gogh was murdered He was known and feared for his strong critizism and his blunt and harsh statements that he spewed when ever he got the chance. Often shocking his "opponenents" Van Gogh had a very stong opinion about the way muslims-funtamentalists suppress women and how they condem gays. In an ultimate attempt to shut him up, he was brutally excecuted in Amsterdam this morning. He was shot 6 times and then a letter was pinned to his dead body with 2 knives The killer was captured after a shoot-out with the police. He is an immigrant from Marocco and aparently a muslim-extremist. Van Gogh paid the ultimate price for what he believed in the most: the freedom of speech |
type11969 |
Nov 4 2004, 06:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Sorry I posted my rant before guys, I've gotten in too many political discussions over the last few weeks on forums and it always boils down to no one is convinced of anything other than what they currently believe. So there really wasn't a point. Personally I believe that we don't have the military size or the monetary resources to do the terrorist nation hopping that is suggested without sending this country back to civil unrest rivaling 1968. And I also believe that these religious extremists , if we keep pushing on them harder, they will just go deeper into the underground, only to emerge when we least expect it. There is very little anyone can do to convince me otherwise unless you have a Delorean with a few modifications by Dr. Emmit Brown. So I'll quit posting.
Chalk this up to cynism I guess, but I think it is damn idealist and optimistic to think that there isn't an alterior motive for going into Iraq when there are more dangerous threats in the world (Like N. Korea that HAS obtained nuclear warheads on Bush's watch). And I find it kind of pathetic when people refer to democrats as weak or what was that? pantywaisted? Come on, it really just takes away from any point that you are trying to make. Dammit, I'm still posting. Ughh, sorry. I'm done, seriously. -Chris |
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