OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
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OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
Jeroen |
Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
A truely sad day for all Dutch
Today movie maker, columnist and chain-smoker Theo van Gogh was murdered He was known and feared for his strong critizism and his blunt and harsh statements that he spewed when ever he got the chance. Often shocking his "opponenents" Van Gogh had a very stong opinion about the way muslims-funtamentalists suppress women and how they condem gays. In an ultimate attempt to shut him up, he was brutally excecuted in Amsterdam this morning. He was shot 6 times and then a letter was pinned to his dead body with 2 knives The killer was captured after a shoot-out with the police. He is an immigrant from Marocco and aparently a muslim-extremist. Van Gogh paid the ultimate price for what he believed in the most: the freedom of speech |
ThinAir |
Nov 4 2004, 10:17 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,543 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Nov 4 2004, 08:28 AM) I find it was alarming that so many Bush voters voted for him because of insignificant things like the gay marriage and abortion or even worse, because he is put in office by God... And that voters didn't care about the big issues that will really influence their lives, like health care, taxes, the war in Iraq, unemployment and... and... and... They are not seen as insignificant things because they reflect whether life is valued or not and thus form the core for all the "big things" that you mentioned. I personally find it very disturbing that my fellow Christians cannot see that the deaths from abortion and the deaths in Iraq (military or civilian) must be weighed against each other in a decision like this election. Like most elections, it came down to a choice for me between two bad choices. Bush shares my positions on abortion, gay marriage and stem cell research - the so-called "moral issues" in the media. I don't think he has a clue about anything else and I believe he has squandered his capital of credibility. I think Kerry had everything right, except these issues. Unfortunately, you can't combine candidates and there wasn't anyone else on the ballot that came anywhere close to having the positions I look for. |
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