OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
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OT: Dutch democracy compromised... |
Jeroen |
Nov 2 2004, 08:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
A truely sad day for all Dutch
Today movie maker, columnist and chain-smoker Theo van Gogh was murdered He was known and feared for his strong critizism and his blunt and harsh statements that he spewed when ever he got the chance. Often shocking his "opponenents" Van Gogh had a very stong opinion about the way muslims-funtamentalists suppress women and how they condem gays. In an ultimate attempt to shut him up, he was brutally excecuted in Amsterdam this morning. He was shot 6 times and then a letter was pinned to his dead body with 2 knives The killer was captured after a shoot-out with the police. He is an immigrant from Marocco and aparently a muslim-extremist. Van Gogh paid the ultimate price for what he believed in the most: the freedom of speech |
type11969 |
Nov 4 2004, 12:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Someone will say, going into Iraq was not validated since they had no WMDs, and their ties to 9/11 are sketchy at best
Someone else will say, they harbored terrorists and they found 380 tons of high explosives that can be used for nuclear weapons. Someone else will say that many nations harbor terrorists, high explosives are not wmds, and N. Korea already has nuclear weapons. Then someone will say that Saddam was a bad person and hated freedom. Then someone else will say that there are many others out there that are much worse than Saddam, again bringing up the point that N. Korea already has nuclear weapons. Then someone will say that you don't think we should have done anything after 9/11. Someone will say that we did with going into Afghanstan, that was validated, Iraq was not. Someone will bring up terrorist harboring and Saddam being a bad person again. Blah, blah, blah. Or something like that. I got in a big discussion on the stf, no ones opinion was swayed, so whats the point? dmenche914, I would ask you how you think we are going to be able to continue this terrorist nation hopping with a growing deficit and a military spread very thin, but I don't really give a damn. What I think about this, and what you think are both speculation, only time will tell. -Chris |
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