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> Turbo for a 914..., this may work
spare time toys
post Nov 9 2004, 01:33 PM
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Check www.ststurbo.com they put it away from the engine. I would think it would have a big turbo lag. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 11 2004, 09:45 AM
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Special heads?? Like these?
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/heads.htm
Those will be available in late 2005. Turbocharging will have a whole new meaning with these puppies, since they use a far superior exhaust port design- from a Type I!

The cooling issues are heavily dependant upon the engine combination as much as the cooling system.

I will tell you now that I have done ALL the R&D work on the Nickies cylinders and used more than anyone on this planet. These engines run super cool for many reasons including the fact that due to drastically reduced friction from the Nikisil that not as much heat is generated. The cylinders also act as huge heat sinks and actually suck the heat right out of the heads!

I have done back to back Nickies/ Cast iron testing on the same engine and saw drastic differences in temperatures, almost 75 degrees at full load for a 40 minute test at 4800 RPM. With the cast iron cylinders that test could not even be completed due to heat soak and what I'm sure would have ended up as a dead engine if I would have kept the throttle pinned.

Porsche knew what the limit was before the cylinders heat soaked and that was around 18HP per cylinder. This is why they went to aluminum, nikisil cylinders themselves. The cylinders make a huge difference after the throtle is held wide open and load is held steady. When testing with cast iron cylinders the head temps and cylinder temps will soar and never really level off with high HP (over the 18HP per cylinder rule) With the Nickies this is a different story, especially after the point where the cast cylinders heat soak. Here is a link from one Type I engine I tested so you can read about some results and some heat soak. This was not the worlds best test because I goofed up the combo and the engine lacked power to really see the nickies do their best. I never really got high enough on the HP chart to max out the cast iron cylinders with my cooling system on this one, but it is interesting. More tests like this have been done, but I have not had time to post the information to the site..

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/r_d_2332.htm

Here is a link from my site from a customer that has a 201BHP N/A engine of mine. These temps are 50 degrees cooler than that of a STOCK 2.0 engine! Its a 2563 TIV...

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/custome...llon/index.html

Also here is another from a customer with a 2739cc, 240 BHP N/A engine with Nickies in his beetle. His head temps run in the neighborhood of 25 degrees hotter than the 2563 link above. This engine has 10.3:1 CR and runs on pump gas.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/custome...testimonial.doc

Here is a link to my "Super Hero" page for the 914 crowd.... It has some more Nickies information there.
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/type4/9...uper_heroes.htm

The other thing that both these engines have is my cooling system, which keeps all the cylinders very close in temperature compared to the stock arrangement. The 914 version of the cooling system is being developed as we speak.

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ITS ALL IN THE COMBO!

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spare time toys   Turbo for a 914...   Nov 9 2004, 01:33 PM
Mueller   same basic design/idea of how Ben M., iamchappy, ...   Nov 9 2004, 02:03 PM
Jake Raby   Lag can be compensated for with the right combo...   Nov 9 2004, 04:20 PM
airsix   Lag is simply a function of heat loss, not tube le...   Nov 9 2004, 06:38 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   :o   Nov 9 2004, 06:42 PM
SLITS   ...   Nov 9 2004, 06:49 PM
!     Nov 9 2004, 06:53 PM
TimT   heh, lag.... just keep the engine revved and you...   Nov 9 2004, 06:56 PM
redshift   Nor will you have to worry about heater fans! ...   Nov 9 2004, 07:11 PM
914forme   Nice Old school Crown turbo system, thou I did not...   Nov 9 2004, 07:14 PM
Jake Raby   Just gear it like a damn Dirtbike and no sweat...   Nov 9 2004, 07:15 PM
redshift   WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE! :lol: M   Nov 9 2004, 08:17 PM
Jake Raby   Yes, sir....... :wacko:   Nov 9 2004, 08:29 PM
airsix   <...   Nov 9 2004, 09:57 PM
Jake Raby   Have Fun! You are starting from a solid base. ...   Nov 9 2004, 10:01 PM
airsix   ...   Nov 9 2004, 10:16 PM
Jake Raby   Hell, I take risks all the time, thats how i found...   Nov 9 2004, 10:27 PM
Brett W   When you want to get serious about boost get a Sub...   Nov 9 2004, 11:07 PM
airsix     Nov 9 2004, 11:42 PM
mattillac   what would be a reasonable amount of boost for a ...   Nov 10 2004, 12:04 AM
Jake Raby   That stock cam is the big limiting factor, since i...   Nov 10 2004, 12:07 AM
mattillac   any cam suggestions to help? 6 psi seems like such...   Nov 10 2004, 12:13 AM
Jake Raby   That cam really does suck.. How are you feeding t...   Nov 10 2004, 12:41 AM
mattillac   i've been looking into megasquirt pefi with ig...   Nov 10 2004, 10:07 AM
!   <...   Nov 10 2004, 10:19 AM
Brett W   Yeah the stock engine is not raelly suited for the...   Nov 10 2004, 10:26 AM
Mueller     Nov 10 2004, 10:48 AM
andys   Well, that Crown Engineering drawing brings back s...   Nov 10 2004, 11:45 AM
mattillac   well i have to do a valve adjust every 3,000 miles...   Nov 10 2004, 12:52 PM
ClayPerrine     Nov 10 2004, 05:49 PM
Brett W   There was a 95mm Ni-Resist ring available for the ...   Nov 10 2004, 05:59 PM
Sammy   Hmmm, I guess you've been reading different bo...   Nov 10 2004, 07:01 PM
mattillac     Nov 10 2004, 07:32 PM
Brett W  
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Jake Raby   Sammy, That book was written for the Type I engine...   Nov 10 2004, 07:46 PM
airsix  
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Brad Smith   Speaking of "special heads..." What exactly IS av...   Nov 11 2004, 08:54 AM
iamchappy   Dont get caught up in all the technical hype just ...   Nov 11 2004, 09:45 AM
Jake Raby   Special heads?? Like these? http://www.aircooledt...   Nov 11 2004, 09:45 AM
Sammy   LOL, much of the same arguments against turbochar...   Nov 11 2004, 12:17 PM
Jake Raby   Most are just cheap asses period, thats why I have...   Nov 11 2004, 12:28 PM
JmuRiz   Yep, just like those. I can't wait to see the...   Nov 11 2004, 12:37 PM
andys   Well, I have to say I agree with some of the previ...   Nov 11 2004, 02:02 PM
Jake Raby   The trick with Turbo is a nice flowing exhaust por...   Nov 11 2004, 02:46 PM


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