Big Type IV or Suby Swap - Opinions Please Options

[Jengah]

I've been lurking for a few months here and could use some help/opinions. I've decided my next project will be a 914 with a extra HP, but can't decide on my route. This would just be a weekend car for twisty roads and occasional track days. I'd like it to be functional so I can still take my wife around in it.

I've had a 914 before (back in H.S.) so I know the car and have shadetree mechanic skills that have helped me maintain/DE my previous fun cars (e30M3, e36M3) so I plan on doing all of the work myself. That being said, I don'nt want to make this unneccesarily challenging (some of you guys are way more patient, skilled, and braver than I am). If I go with a Suby motor, I'll do the NA route. I'm considering either an EJ25 or EZ30.

So, the Suby engine is most likely going to have more reliability/last long the higher we get up in HP. It also seems to be the less expensive route. However, it is definitly the slower and more complicated route.

Does anyone with experience having tried both engines have opinions and advice on which is better or what the pro/cons are?

[bandjoey]

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2013 Scion FRS engine with 39K miles complete with wire harness and all accessories ECU, starter, A/C compressor and alternator. engine was professionally removed wires were carefully unplugged, engine is ready to install just plug and play, removed from 2013 wrecked vehicle with automatic transmission,Oil pan will need to be swapped out as it was punctured to drain oil and was fitted with a rubber plug.
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This is a 4cyl 200 hp motor. Lots of them on EvilBay. Anyone using one of these?

Both Subaru BRZ and Toyota Scion use this motor on their little sports car. Not only that but there are several plug and play aftermarket turbo kits advertised.

[Andyrew]

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13-16 Scion FR-S FRS 2.0 Engine 39K Miles Automatic Complete
2013 Scion FRS engine with 39K miles complete with wire harness and all accessories ECU, starter, A/C compressor and alternator. engine was professionally removed wires were carefully unplugged, engine is ready to install just plug and play, removed from 2013 wrecked vehicle with automatic transmission,Oil pan will need to be swapped out as it was punctured to drain oil and was fitted with a rubber plug.
$2,499.00
Brand: Subaru
$200.00 shipping
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This is a 4cyl 200 hp motor. Lots of them on EvilBay. Anyone using one of these?

Both Subaru BRZ and Toyota Scion use this motor on their little sports car. Not only that but there are several plug and play aftermarket turbo kits advertised.

It would be a good motor to swap. No bottom end power, but good top end. Been in production 6 years with no changes so thats good news for longevity and availability.

[mepstein]

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13-16 Scion FR-S FRS 2.0 Engine 39K Miles Automatic Complete
2013 Scion FRS engine with 39K miles complete with wire harness and all accessories ECU, starter, A/C compressor and alternator. engine was professionally removed wires were carefully unplugged, engine is ready to install just plug and play, removed from 2013 wrecked vehicle with automatic transmission,Oil pan will need to be swapped out as it was punctured to drain oil and was fitted with a rubber plug.
$2,499.00
Brand: Subaru
$200.00 shipping
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This is a 4cyl 200 hp motor. Lots of them on EvilBay. Anyone using one of these?

Both Subaru BRZ and Toyota Scion use this motor on their little sports car. Not only that but there are several plug and play aftermarket turbo kits advertised.

It would be a good motor to swap. No bottom end power, but good top end. Been in production 6 years with no changes so thats good news for longevity and availability.

the BRZ weighs about 2800lbs so it's engine should be a little happier in a 914. Gets it's max HP at 7K.